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Immortality Type 4

It should just be taken out. I really don't see a use for it. And yes, I like powerlisting's Immortality as well
 
From what I've read a while ago, this wiki is an idex wiki first and and a vs battle wiki second (I heard this on the thread with 'Goku Sleep Manipulation Resistance' thread).
 
@Zach, those are just numbers, the solution is easy: we can get rid of the current type 4 and place another, for example Amortality, we do not have that (I think).
 
Not really, undead is that one is already dead, meanwhile amortality one never died cuz it weren't never alive to begin with. Although, technically neither of those counts as immortality (immortality is being unable to die).
 
For the sake of vs devating, an undead despite being already dead it has a body that can generally be destroyed (such zombies, mummies and some kind of vampires), can't be affected by conventional Death Manipulation and maybe life-force manipulation. Meanwhile, an amortal is not affect by any type of Death Manipulation, although I think its body can still be destroyed normally (Alhough I do not known users with that type of "weakness"... I actually do not known characters with amortality besides from Harry Potter and one or another Grim Reaper)
 
@Ultima, ah sure, I though that was only for beings that are beyond the concept of Death, but it also apply to Amortals and Nonexistance beings.
 
I mean, The "Protection from a Deity" aspect of Type 4 isn't that useless. We need to establish a difference between an Abstract Being who will live on as long as a certain Concept or Ideia exists and someone like Nanashi, who is sustained and kept alive by a Divine Being who in turn can easily remove his protection from him and leave his body to collapse.

Though, limiting it to protection from Deities is oddly specific, and should be changed to something more abrangent.
 
I suppose simply removing Immortality via simply being a god could be removed, and the protection from a deity be kept.
 
The only thing that may need to be changed is the "you're a god? You get type 4". Protection from a deity should still be fine.
 
Type 4 has actually been heavily downplayed recently, imo. Back in the day, unless you either a) were significantly stronger than the opponent or stronger than the god granting it, b) got rid of their immortality, c) haxed them to death (and I don't mean stuff like absolute zero, but existence erasure), or d) were a god yourself, there was no way to actually beat them without incapacitating
 
Being bounded to a Concept isn't type 8? And if its immortality depends of a superior being it do not make it different to any other immortality, is just that the power depend of another being that can get rid of it or bring it back.
 
Antoniofer said:
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Being reliant on a Concept is Type 8, yes. It is in the very page for Immortality

Not really. Being protected by a Superior Being can amount to said Entity resurrecting and protecting you from outside interference, it doesn't stop you from Aging or something natural like that. Though depending on the context it does
 
How is type 4 useless? A blessing of immortality that includes resurrection from a far stronger god, like say Chaos Horus (Until they just kinda stopped), or Abaddon is far from useless. That's straight up 1-A immortality in those two cases.
 
@Ultima, is what I mean. Your immortality depends of another being, he can heal you, or it banned you from death, or can just resurrect you, at the end it depends how the immortality works.
 
@Woki

They are referring to the I am a God so **** you "I am a God so I am Immortal and can't die even if I get screwed up" part of Type 4

Which is really just a extremely redundant reference to Greek Mythology
 
Aren't the greek gods missing a fuckload of hax BTW?

Pretty sure Orphic zeus has conceptual dickery and regular gods have at least low godly if not mid godly Regenerationn
 
Perhaps some characters could be unkilleable, but the explaination itself make it sounds underwhelming and useless; Zamasu for example has this immortality and he only counts with normal regen and semi-immortality.
 
Imo it doesn't even sound useless still. I don't see the problem people got with it. I'd say type 2 immortality is in a worse position than type 4
 
Isn't type 10 immortality just type 4 immortality but stronger?
 
Type 2's actually really good in lower tiers (10-9 mainly, though it can matter in low end 8).
 
Type 10 is just due to their status as 1-As, true godly is regenerating from 1-A erasure
 
Sometimes Regenerationn is mixed with immortality, basically anyone with resurrection can be considered Low-Godly.
 
Wokistan said:
Type 2's actually really good in lower tiers (10-9 mainly, though it can matter in low end 8).
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Type 2 is good in almost any tier as long as the opponent isn't so strong that he'd one-shot, or turn you into pieces.
 
Doesn't it matter how good the immortality is as long as your immortality

This seems more like what you guys like instead of what's right and what has shown to literally have feats
 
The mechanism does matter a lot. It changes what abilities can deal with them at what abilities can't.
 
I mean it matters if it's immortality in the sense of "no aging" or immortality in the sense of "ressurection because no death" or immortality in the sense of "no death, but harm works fine (type 5 basically)" or whatever. I feel like a lot of type 4s aren't supposed to be the rez type but are.
 
I mean I don't think it should be taken out necessarily. It still protects against whatever type 1 protects against but has the weakness of going away if somehow they lost their godhood, and we're more for indexing than what's actually useful for combat.
 
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