Acnologia vs Ainz

Speed is equalized

Distance : 100m

Place : Ravines of Time

Win by death



The Goal of All Life is Death!

Aight, first thing's first, what's stopping Ainz from going lolgraspheart

I vote incon since it depends on if Acno seals or Ainz grasphearts

As far as I know grapheart is now known as Death Magic. It's something that he can resist . And what's stopping Acno lol one-shot via higher AP ?

graspheart's a spell that is both instant death and it crushes the opponent's heart. Acno would be able to ignore the instant death part but I don't think he would be able to survive a crushed heart

Ainz; he has the hax required to kill Acno and even if he get's one shot he can resurrect himself.

What's Ainz going to do if Acno seals him

Ainz timestops and instakills gg

time stop isn't going to work on Acno

How likely would Acno seal first? Because if he does not do it first Ainz would easily take it with grasp heart.

As soon as Acno got the ability to seal, it was the first thing he started with in a fight.

@ dragonemperour23

Acno's sealing can be broken out of by people with 7-B level physical strength nor does it stop people trapped by it from using magic so it's something of a non issue.

How strong is Ainz physically in wizard mode? He has Perfect Warrior but he has to turn that on. Acno's sealing stops people from using magic but it doesn't stop them physically.

His profile says island class, higher with perfect warrior for striking strength.

The profile says it varies with his spells and that Perfect Warrior is around that. The problem with it is that Perfect Warrior is a spell so if Acno sealed Ainz and Ainz tried using Perfect Warrior it wouldn't work because he has to activate the spell to turn into it which is magic.

True but it also lists his wizard form striking strength at island class and higher with perfect warrior. As I said before Acno's sealing doesn't prevent the use of Magic as shown when Wendy used one of her stat amping spells on everyone enabling them to break free; so there is no reason why Ainz cannot do the same with or without the use of magic (given that he is much stronger (physically) than 6 0f the 7 people Wendy amped).

my b I didn't look at his striking strength because I thought it would be included in the attack potentcy. Would Ainz be able to come back if Acno BFR'd him to the crystal place?

According to the OP the fight takes place in the crystal place (also known as the ravines of time) so Acno cannot BFR unless he want's to send Ainz to his near feral/brain dead dragon form which means Ainz can attack and kill at least 1 version of him, which will kill both versions.

I'll switch my vote from incon to Acnologia since Acno can just BFR him

When did Acnologia get resistance to timestop? Ainz literally just instakills with a death spell, hehas so much hax compared to Acnofodder it isn't even funny, Cry of the Banshee, La Shub Nigurath, The goal of all life is death, true death? Then you need to take the world class item into consideration which mess with laws.

This is a stomp in Ainz's favor

for some reason I didn't see your reply to my thing. In Fairy Tail Dragons can live without a soul or a body. So if Acno just BFR'd him out then Ainz would kill his body but his soul would still be alive. It doesn't matter which version dies because the body or the soul could survive on it's own without the other existing.

Ainz is simply gonna timestop and use one of his many hax he has at his disposal, seal him in a black hole, instakill, use a world class item to end him, Acnologia isn't gonna BFR him since Ainz always starts with a timestop and he has no resistance to it.

Don't say that within stopped time and this much hax he can't get rid of him lmao

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Enhanced Senses, Extrasensory Perception, Master Swordsmanship, Arrow, Dual Wield, Magic, Elemental Manipulation (Fire Manipulation, Wind Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Poison Manipulation, Hell Flame Manipulation), Time Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Durability Negation, Negative Energy Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation, Light Manipulation, Gravity Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Undead Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Black Hole Creation, Forcefield Creation, Telepathy, Healing (Also heals from negative energy), Necromancy, Regenerationn (At least Low-Mid), Immortality (Types 1, 3, potentially 4 and 7), Creation, Absorption, Invisibility, Teleportation, Flight, Explosion Creation, Mind Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Enemy Summoning Rejection, Can boost his stats (Strength, Speed, etc), Resurrection (himself and others), Summoning, Spiritual Awareness and Night Vision, Aura, Portal Creation, Homing Attacks, Reality Warping (With "Wish Upon A Star"), Statistics Reduction (Can reduce the strength and speed of opponents with each touch) Can cast almost any spell instantly without having to annunciate it, Resistance to Magic, Poison, Disease, Sleep, Paralysis, Physical Impediment, Necromancy, Energy Drain, Mind Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Acid Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Information Analysis, Clairvoyance and Time Manipulation, Dimensional Storage, Clairvoyance, Transmutation, Transformation, Information Analysis, Self-Information Manipulation, Holy Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Morality Manipulation (Has shown to be charismatic in his speech.), Fear Manipulation, Madness Manipulation, Negation, Resistance Negation (The Goal of All Life is Death allows Ainz to ignore any types of resistance to his insta-death magic - even immunities or immortality) Can cause damage to intangible targets, Damage Boost, Status Effect Inducement

Overlord Bonus AbilitiesEdit Competence in Evil Language Create High Tier Undead (up to 4/day): Ainz can create either an Eyeball Corpse or a Pale Rider by using this ability. If Ainz were to use his experience points, he can even create level 90 monsters. (Overlord Wiseman / Grim Reaper Thanatos). Create Middle Tier Undead (up to 12/day): Ainz created Death Knight, Jack the Ripper and Corpse Collector by using this ability. Create Low Tier Undead (up to 20/day): Ainz can create a Wraiths or Bone Vultures by using this ability. Dark Soul Dark Wisdom: Allows the user to increase the number of spells one can learn by experiencing a sacrifice-ritual event. It can also be used to learn a single spell from the corpse of an enemy player. This allows Ainz to know far more spells than is usually possible; he can even learn and use holy spells. Despair Aura I: Has a chance of causing Fear. Despair Aura II: Has a chance of causing Panic. Despair Aura III: Has a chance of causing Confusion. Despair Aura IV: Has a chance of causing Insanity. Despair Aura V: Has a chance of causing Instant Death. Electric, Poison, Ice Invalidation High Tier Repel Resistance III High Tier Magic Invalidation III: Nullifies all low tier spells. High Tier Physical Invalidation III: Nullifies all low-level attacks (below level 60). Immortal Blessing: Can sense other undead beings. Negative Touch: Deals negative-type damage to the object being touched, attacked, or skill-attacked by Ainz, permanently lowering their physical capabilities. Acquired by Elder Lich level up. Can toggle On/Off. Negative Guard Negative Blessing Status Damage Ôàú Slashing Weapon Resistance V Strengthened Magic Vision: See Through. Thrusting Weapon Resistance V Basic Undead Race TraitsEdit Critical Hit Invalid Dark Vision Doubled damage by Fire Energy Drain Invalid Food, Drink, and Breathing are Unnecessary Mental Immunity Necromancy Resistance Physical Penalty Resistance Poisoning/Sick/Sleep/Instant Death/Paralysis Invalid Positive, Light, Holy Weakness Ôàú Recover from Negative Energy Status Damage Invalid Status Penalty in Positive / Holy Area Striking Weapon Weakness Ôàñ Super-Tier MagicEdit While magic only goes up to the 10th rank, Super-Tier Magic is said to go beyond that, but it acts more like a special ability or a skill than an actual spell. Magic casters can unleash it without consuming any of their MP. The number you can learn is one for each level after level 70. When it is first learned, it can only be used once a day. However, it can be used once more for every additional ten levels. The average player who has reached level 100 can use Super-Tier magic at least 4 times. Furthermore, Super Tier Magic cannot be activated consecutively. Firstly, unlike other magic, it has an activation period, and if a certain amount of damage is done to the magic caster, it will interrupt the casting. Secondly, although it is possible to use cash items to remove this activation period, Super Tier Magic has a cooldown time for the whole party that cannot be removed. Fallen Down: Calls down a huge pillar of blue light from the sky that will burn so bright and hot that it will appear like the whole world has turned white. After a few seconds, it will leave behind an area burned to cinder, devoid of life. This spell deals massive damage, especially to undead-type enemies. Iä Shub-Niggurath: Summons a black cyclone and kills everything in the area. The victims are sacrificed to summon monsters over level 90, "Dark Young". The number of summoned dark young is proportional to the total number of sacrifices. Creation: Allows large-scale changes to the land. Ainz was able to freeze a large lake instantly by using this spell. Wish Upon A Star: Consumes the caster's experience points to grant a wish. Ainz cast this spell by using a special item, but he said that he has also learned the spell. Pantheon: Summons 6 level 80, "Cherubims Gate Keeper" through the use of an Over Rank, holy-type magic under his command. Normal SpellsEdit Absorption All Appraisal Magic Item: Identifies the magical effects of an item. Anti-Life Cocoon Astral Smite: An 8th tier spell that shoots a stream of bright blue needles from the caster's hand. It is effective against ethereal, gaseous, or otherwise intangible beings. Boosted Magic: A modifier that increases the tier of spells to the caster's current magic tier, allowing them to bypass incomplete magic resistances and increase the effects of a low-tier spell to a viable level. Black Hole: Magic that creates a void that absorbs enemies inside with crushing gravity, and also consumes light. Bless of Magic Caster Body of Effulgent Beryl: 10th-Tier spell. Reduces strike-type damage. If the user reactivates this spell during the duration, it negates a single strike-type attack. Call Greater Thunder: Summons a large thunderbolt that continuously shocks the enemy for a short time. Charm Person: Manipulates the target's mind to make them think the caster is a close friend. However, they will only accept requests that they would willingly do for a friend. Complete Invisibility: A spell that was far superior to a normal invisibility spell. Ainz becomes completely invisible to anyone unless they use specialized magic to see him. Only the highest-ranked undead with classes focused on perception can see through this spell's effect. Control Amnesia: 10th-Tier spell. Controls the memory of the target. Because of its astronomically high cost, Ainz can only manipulate memories up to about ten minutes old. However, if he is only viewing them, he can see memories years old. It is more effective the less the target resists. Create Greater Item Allows Ainz to create weapons and armor that is roughly equivalent to items around level 30-35. Items created by this method bypass class restrictions, but reduce magical capabilities. This is how Ainz creates the weapons and armor of Momon, his adventurer disguise. Distant Vision: A form of clairvoyance that allows the caster to find the location of a specific item or person. It shows the caster a mental image of the location of their target. Draconic Power Death Instantly kills the target without any activation time or requirements. It is similar to grasp heart, but does not require the caster to crush the heart, and does not have its secondary stun effect. Delay Magic: A modifier that delays the activation of spells for an amount of time set by the player. Ainz is one of the few players that has perfected its use so that he can cast spells during a timestop, and have them activate the instant it ends. Delay Teleportation: A spell that, once activated, automatically slows enemy teleportation down, notifies the caster of where the enemy is teleporting, and even allows some control over where they teleport to. Dragon Lightning: Shoots out a lightning bolt in the form of a dragon, that then seeks out its target. Drifting Master Mine: An invisible mine that, as the name implies, "drifts" and locks on to targets that enter its range. Explode Mine: A trap magic that explodes when it is near the enemy. Explosion False Data: Life: Gives the user the ability to fake his/her HP, allowing them to trick enemies that try to gauge their HP by nonphysical methods. Fireball: Shoots a ball of fire that burns its target. Fly: Gives the caster the ability to fly. Freedom: A buff that provides protection from high-level restraining effects. Gate: A high tier spell that creates a large, two-way portal which can open anywhere the caster wants, regardless of distance, and be kept open for as long as they want. Grasp Heart: A 9th-tier spell that allows Ainz to remotely grab the heart (or whatever equivalent organ) of an enemy, and crush it, killing them instantly. This even works on dragons and other giant enemies. Furthermore, if the enemy does not instantly die, then the spell activates a strong stun effect. This is said by Ainz to be his favorite spell, and because of the secondary stun effect, it is usually a safe bet to use it first on any enemy that is not obviously immune to instant death. Gravity Maelstrom: A spiraling black ball of gravity. If it hits the enemy, the intense gravity will make their body collapse in on itself, negating durability. Greater Break Item: Can be used while out of combat to destroy a powerful magic item. It can also be used to accurately destroy buildings, even during combat. Greater Full Potential Greater Hardening Greater Luck Greater Magic Seal: Allows most spells to be stored in an invisible, floating magic circle, which can be released later. Greater Magic Shield Greater Rejection: Cancels the summoning of powerful creatures. Greater Resistance Greater Teleportation: This 7th tier spell allows the caster to teleport anywhere they have been to, or can see. It works instantly and has the same cost no matter the distance. Visions from divination spells qualify. Heavenly Aura Hellflame: This 7th tier spell shoots out a very small flame that will then latch onto a target and become a raging inferno that burns anything to ashes with black flames. Hold of Ribs: A spell that restricts a target's movement with a giant enclosure of bones. Indomitability Infinity Wall Life Essence: Identifies the current HP of the target. Magic Arrow: Shoots out an arrow made of bright yellow mana that pierces the target. If boosted, the arrows materialize in a large group and home in on enemies. Magic Boost Magic Chanter Blessing Magic Ward: Holy: Gives some resistance to the holy element. Mana Essence: Identifies the current MP of the target by revealing their magic aura. Mantle of Chaos Mass Fly: Gives a group of people the ability to fly. Message: Able to talk to a targeted person through telepathy, regardless of distance. Meteor Fall: Summons a gigantic meteor which then impacts directly on the target, causing a large amount of destruction. Maximize Magic: A modifier that increases the power and effects of most spells to the caster's highest capabilities, although they will be less cost-efficient than normal. However, it does not raise the tier of the spell. Napalm Negative Burst: Sends out a negative sphere of energy from around the caster's body, that expands hundreds of meters. However, it does low damage in comparison to other spells, so it is better used against a group of weaker targets. Nuclear Blast: A 9th tier spell that creates a huge burst of nuclear energy, dealing half fire damage and half bludgeoning damage. Although one of the weaker 9th tier spells in terms of damage, it has a large blast radius, great knockback, and can cause debuffs such as poisoning, blindness, deafness, and more. It hhas two downsides: Ainz will also be damaged if he set off the spell too close to himself, and enemies will not be affected by the knockback if they take no damage from the spell. Obsidian Sword: Creates a large obsidian sword that will lock on to a target and hone in like a missile. It has high durability and will keep attacking until destroyed. Paranormal Intuition Penetrate Up Perfect Unknowable: A direct upgrade from complelete invisibility, this spell erases all traces of the caster. When in effect, only the highest level players specialized in stealth or enemy detection are able to sense Ainz. However, he can only keep up the spell for about ten minutes due to its high cost. Rabbit Ears: Grows two large ears that improve hearing. Reality Slash: A 10th-Tier spell that bisects space to cut the target in half. Top class in damage dealing but consumes a lot of mana. The spell is considered to be a lesser version of 'World Break'. Repel Undeath: A spell that creates a barrier to ward off low-level undead. Sense Enemy Sensor Boost Sharks Cyclone: A spell that invokes a tornado (100 meters high and with a 50-meter diameter). Within the tornado lie 6 meter long sharks waiting to devour anyone unlucky enough to be sucked inside. Shockwave Shoots a wave of electricity. Silent Magic: A modifier that allows Ainz to cast any spell silently and instantly for an increased cost. Thousand Bone Lance: A spell that unearths an uncountable amount of bone spikes that shoot at the target from all directions. Touch of Undead Triplet Magic: A modifier that allows the caster to use three of the same spell at once. True Dark: Deals damage with a large stream of darkness from the sky. True Death: Instantly kills a single enemy, and nullifies all but the highest tier of resurrection magic. Twin Magic: A modifier that allows the caster to use two of the same spell at once. Wall of Protection from Arrows A spherical barrier that nullifies all low-level projectiles. Wall of Skeleton: Creates a wall of skeletons that can move and fight to a certain degree. Some possess crude weapons. Widen Magic: A modifier that increases a spell's area of effect. Notable AbilitiesEdit Cry of the Banshee: Shout that has an instant death effect, and can also be used with Widen Magic to cover a huge area. Perfect Warrior: A transformation-type spell that allows Ainz to become a level 100 warrior, converting from his magic caster stats to warrior stats. As a result of the transformation, this spell does come with another cost, where he is unable to use any other magic while he maintains the spell's effects. However, Ainz was still able to make up for such a weakness by using the powers and abilities of elemental weapons stored within his pocket dimension like Frost Pain Modified, etc instead. While in this form, he can bypass through the class restrictions such as being able to use Touch Me's World Champion armor without suffering any penalty. However, because he lacks the skills and special abilities of a true warrior, Ainz would likely lose against a warrior of equal or higher power without the use of special divine or world class items. Time Stop: Time magic that stops the enemy for a specific amount of time, and can be activated instantly. The caster cannot deal damage, but spells and skills used during the time stop can be set to activate when it ends with Delay Magic. The Goal of All Life is Death: This special skill is one of Ainz's most powerful abilities and comes from the Eclipse-class, which is one of the hardest classes to get because it requires the Overlord class with spells specialized in necromancy and instant death type magic. The Eclipse class lets the user become a true lord of death, a life-consuming Eclipse. Once activated, this skill delays any of the caster's instant death type spells for 12 seconds but allows them to ignore any types of resistance - even immunities or immortality. Ainz used this spell with '(Widen) Cry of the Banshee, and it killed everything in 200m (living beings, undead, oxygen, earth, water, etc), turning the area into a desolate wasteland and poisoning the air. The cooldown of this skill is 100 hours. It is not possible to resist this spell, with the only counter being that one must use either an item or skill that would cause them to be revived before the 12 seconds pass. Other PassivesEdit High Holy Resistance (Given by divine-class robes) Absolute Flame Resistance (Given by his world-champion armor)

Dude I already said Acno's not going to be effected by time stop you could at least read his profile.

I already saw his profile and I see no resistance to timestop whatsoever, this is honestly a stomp, Acnologia gets outhaxed, when did he just BFR? he overwhelmed serena and even let himself get caught in Universe one, Ainz isn't an idiot and always starts with timestop, which Acno has no resistance to unless you have scans that prove otherwise.

This is Acnologia from the final fight. He gained time magic as one of his powers and the ability to BFR people into or outside of the Ravines of time after he absorbed it. This is all in his profile. As a Dragon/Dragon slayer time stop isn't going to work on him since time is part of his element.

I smell an association fallacy, just because he can use time magic doesn't mean he gets to resist everything involving time manipulation without feats.

"Time Magic: After consuming the Ravines of Time, Acnologia was able to wield Time Magic. He used this power to transport the seven Dragon Slayers into his world within the time dimension."

"Time Magic (After devouring the Ravines of Time, Acnologia can use Time Magic)"

There is absolutely nothing that suggest any kind of resistance to timestop. Making assumptions out of something that has no feats to back it up is not something that goes well in a vsdebate.

So again, since there is nothing to support any kind of resistance to timestop, Ainz hax stomps

Inconclusive FRA

Ainz sama takes this quite easily,his advantage in hax and versatility is just staggering.

Association fallacy? This is common Dragon Slayer logic. When a Dragon Slayer is able to absorb an element, they become immune to its effects. Natsu ate lightning and gained immunity to lightning manip along with lightning manipulation. Acnologia ate time so he gained the ability to use and be immune to time magic.

@zzsax does Ainz have a way to come back from being BFR'd?

Except that he has literally no feats of resisting timestop whatsoever, and saying he just becomes resistant to time based abilites completely is a massive NLF with nothing to back it up.

Ainz hax stomps regardless of timestop or not, since he outhaxes him so severly it's insane and de to that Acnologia won't even get the chance to BFR since he's got clairvoyance, mind and soulhax and can create black holes.

Ainz has too much hax, and lots of resistances to it as well, world class items can change certain laws and even have EE. Ainz utterly destroys Acno with his hax that he has no resistance to it

It's not a NLF, you're ignoring how Dragon Slayer magic works. NLF means no limits factor, I'm not saying that Acnologia could ignore Ren Fuji's Zarathusra or anything. He's just immune to normal time manipulation that is directed at him. I did back up how Acno negs the time stop, I explained why. I'm not sure if you did read Acno's profile because it says he is mindhax resistant. How would clairvoyance even help Ainz in this fight? The fight starts, Ainz knows he's going to get BFR'd and then he gets BFR'd.

I'm surprised how you act as if Ainz can't evade BFR, it's like you're saying he would blitz him despite speed being equal. Clairvoyance basically means anything Acno tries to pull off is useless as Ainz can counter it perfectly and since speed is equal he won't get BFRd

Yet there are still no feats of him resisting something as a time stop, so you can't just claim he can resist it, it's hax, and unless you've got specific resistance to it you are going to get affected.

Well it's not like he hasn't got a boatload of hax he ain't resisting, Acno gets destroyed by black holes, and World class items, you seem to be ignoring this yet I even posted their description on this very page.

Acno doesn't have to touch Ainz to BFR him. This fight starts off with them being in the Ravines where human Acno is. Acno BFR's him by wanting him not to be there. He does this as soon as the fight starts so Ainz wouldn't have time to use any of his spells that you mentioned and Acno would win via his opponent being removed from the battlefield. Again he doesn't have to resist time stop when you know that Dragon slayer's are not hurt by their element which time is apart of after Acno ate it. I already explained this, I don't know why you're ignoring the reasoning and focusing on the claim.

So does Ainz, He always starts with a timestop, ad scans of him BFRing others in and out of the Ravines with his thought because I've read FT and I don't recall him doing anything like that.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/7yOTYOOeq...u3aAtKLKdfhfpaHQE=s0?title=007_1497744014.png https://2.bp.blogspot.com/0bocQEbXp...qYJqwm7_TVy6v6DsQ=s0?title=009_1497744014.png Acno didn't want them in there so they just came out. His dragon form requires him to suck them up but his human form doesn't need to do that since he's just making them leave.

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It's not a NLF, you're ignoring how Dragon Slayer magic works. NLF means no limits factor, I'm not saying that Acnologia could ignore Ren Fuji's Zarathusra or anything. He's just immune to normal time manipulation that is directed at him. I did back up how Acno negs the time stop, I explained why. I'm not sure if you did read Acno's profile because it says he is mindhax resistant. How would clairvoyance even help Ainz in this fight? The fight starts, Ainz knows he's going to get BFR'd and then he gets BFR'd.

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That won't do,OP says win by death

BFR is a non-factor stop bringing it up

Oops, didn't see that. I'm switching my vote to Ainz then since BFR was literally the only way Acno was going to win lol.

Isn't this kind of a stomp? Does Acnologia have anything to work against Ainz?