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The last thread was getting quite cluttered and long, so here's a new one.
As we all know, the current scaling, and stat situation in Akame ga Kill! is a total disaster. Here we will fix that once, and for all.
If I missed anything below, kindly remind me.
What needs to be discussed.
Attack Potency of Mid-High tiers.
This is currently the most controversial of all the changes.
Bulat is said to be comparable to Esdeath at her beginings,so Bulat would be Low 7-B, and by extension Budo. Since it would be nonsensical for one of the Empire's strongest generals to be weaker than Bulat.
This ties into another potential revision. A separate key for the characters at the beginning of the series, and around the end.
We see that Night Raid goes through a lot of training from the beginning to end. It's unclear how long this actually is. But at least a year is a safe bet.
So what is being proposed here is At least Low 7-C for the beginning of series Night Raid. And Likely Low 7-B for the later part of the series. This is supported by Wave managing to fight Evolved Incursio Tatsumi. Who was screaming at Wave to piss off, so I doubt he was casual there. Budo also struggled with Akame and Leone, who he was actively trying to kill.
"But Versus, Leone and Akame were incapacitated by his electricity!"
That is more due to the nature of electricity paralyzing the muscles, like a tazer .What matters is that they survived the energy output itself without being vaporized. So they scale to Budo.
Third Form Tatsumi, and Wave could only really stagger Purge Shikoutazer from what I recall. And they struggled to even put a small crack in it. So I don't think they should scale to High 7-A. But having them at Low 7-C, or Low 7-B also doesn't work.
However, this is a situation where backscaling may be okay, make them 7-A. For being able to cause minor damage to the Teigu.
The stuff below has been settled.
Now it's time for the Elephant in the room
Purge Mode Shikoutazer onwards.
As shown here, in the most recent comment of the blog. There is the new, and most accurate result of the dark attack calc.
We will go with the Pulverization Low-End (High 7-A 1123 megatons) The Calc group members accepted that result, and agree it is more likely. The smoke coming off the crater was probably just dust, rather than steam. Plus, there are a bunch of pebbles around the crater. And, it's more consistent.
Why Shikoutazer scales to the dark attack.
Simple, Newton's Third Law.
The Teigu could fire the attack, using the energy in it's own body without damaging itself in any way. Logically to use a High 7-A attack, it would have to have that durability as well. It makes no sense for it not too.
Similar characters that are scaled this way are Lord Boros, due to being able to survive his own attack. But unlike Lord Boros, Shikoutazer experienced no noticeable strain from using the attack.
In short, it's nonsensical for Shikoutazer to not scale to the Dark Attack.
I'm pretty sure the Shikoutazer thing is something we can all agree upon.
Now for scaling the Top-Tiers.
Fourth Form Tatsumi should be at least High 7-A for piercing through, and creating a massive hole in the Teigu's center without any issues.
"But Versus, didn't Wave and Tatsumi create a weak-spot on Shikoutazer? So why would they scale to it's dura?"
Except that Tatsumi pretty much destroyed it's whole Torso, including the core that fired the Dark Attack. A tiny little weak spot wouldn't really allow you to do that.
The rest is pretty self explanatory Ennodzuno Akame = Esdeath >>> Tyrant> Fourth Form Tats>>>Shikoutazer>dark attack.
Ennodzuno Akame, and Esdeath should get a "likely higher" for whatever tier they get.
New topics we've agreed on.
Shikoutazer will scale to the Dark Attack. And by extention, Fourth Form Tatsumi and up.(More detailed reasoning above)
Akame's 8-C key is gone.
Via statement, Bulat will scale to Esdeath from the time she barely had her Teigu. And by extention, Budo scales.
EoS Akame, and Leone are to scale to Budo.
Well then,let's get on with it. Once we're finished, we will refine the scaling, then make the changes.
In agreement: Gargoyle One Veloxt1r0kore RebubleUselet TriforcePower1 Burning Full Fingers Kaltias
Neutral/Undecided: Knightofannihilation666
Opposing:
TLDR: Purge Shikoutazer and up are High 7-A. With Esdeath and Ennodzuno Akame being at least High 7-A, likely Higher. BoS Night Raid will be At least Low 7-C. Witn EoS being Likely Low 7-B. This scaling comes from Bulat being comparable to Esdeath in her beginnings, so Budo scales as well.
As we all know, the current scaling, and stat situation in Akame ga Kill! is a total disaster. Here we will fix that once, and for all.
If I missed anything below, kindly remind me.
What needs to be discussed.
Attack Potency of Mid-High tiers.
This is currently the most controversial of all the changes.
Bulat is said to be comparable to Esdeath at her beginings,so Bulat would be Low 7-B, and by extension Budo. Since it would be nonsensical for one of the Empire's strongest generals to be weaker than Bulat.
This ties into another potential revision. A separate key for the characters at the beginning of the series, and around the end.
We see that Night Raid goes through a lot of training from the beginning to end. It's unclear how long this actually is. But at least a year is a safe bet.
So what is being proposed here is At least Low 7-C for the beginning of series Night Raid. And Likely Low 7-B for the later part of the series. This is supported by Wave managing to fight Evolved Incursio Tatsumi. Who was screaming at Wave to piss off, so I doubt he was casual there. Budo also struggled with Akame and Leone, who he was actively trying to kill.
"But Versus, Leone and Akame were incapacitated by his electricity!"
That is more due to the nature of electricity paralyzing the muscles, like a tazer .What matters is that they survived the energy output itself without being vaporized. So they scale to Budo.
Third Form Tatsumi, and Wave could only really stagger Purge Shikoutazer from what I recall. And they struggled to even put a small crack in it. So I don't think they should scale to High 7-A. But having them at Low 7-C, or Low 7-B also doesn't work.
However, this is a situation where backscaling may be okay, make them 7-A. For being able to cause minor damage to the Teigu.
The stuff below has been settled.
Now it's time for the Elephant in the room
Purge Mode Shikoutazer onwards.
As shown here, in the most recent comment of the blog. There is the new, and most accurate result of the dark attack calc.
We will go with the Pulverization Low-End (High 7-A 1123 megatons) The Calc group members accepted that result, and agree it is more likely. The smoke coming off the crater was probably just dust, rather than steam. Plus, there are a bunch of pebbles around the crater. And, it's more consistent.
Why Shikoutazer scales to the dark attack.
Simple, Newton's Third Law.
The Teigu could fire the attack, using the energy in it's own body without damaging itself in any way. Logically to use a High 7-A attack, it would have to have that durability as well. It makes no sense for it not too.
Similar characters that are scaled this way are Lord Boros, due to being able to survive his own attack. But unlike Lord Boros, Shikoutazer experienced no noticeable strain from using the attack.
In short, it's nonsensical for Shikoutazer to not scale to the Dark Attack.
I'm pretty sure the Shikoutazer thing is something we can all agree upon.
Now for scaling the Top-Tiers.
Fourth Form Tatsumi should be at least High 7-A for piercing through, and creating a massive hole in the Teigu's center without any issues.
"But Versus, didn't Wave and Tatsumi create a weak-spot on Shikoutazer? So why would they scale to it's dura?"
Except that Tatsumi pretty much destroyed it's whole Torso, including the core that fired the Dark Attack. A tiny little weak spot wouldn't really allow you to do that.
The rest is pretty self explanatory Ennodzuno Akame = Esdeath >>> Tyrant> Fourth Form Tats>>>Shikoutazer>dark attack.
Ennodzuno Akame, and Esdeath should get a "likely higher" for whatever tier they get.
New topics we've agreed on.
Shikoutazer will scale to the Dark Attack. And by extention, Fourth Form Tatsumi and up.(More detailed reasoning above)
Akame's 8-C key is gone.
Via statement, Bulat will scale to Esdeath from the time she barely had her Teigu. And by extention, Budo scales.
EoS Akame, and Leone are to scale to Budo.
Well then,let's get on with it. Once we're finished, we will refine the scaling, then make the changes.
In agreement: Gargoyle One Veloxt1r0kore RebubleUselet TriforcePower1 Burning Full Fingers Kaltias
Neutral/Undecided: Knightofannihilation666
Opposing:
TLDR: Purge Shikoutazer and up are High 7-A. With Esdeath and Ennodzuno Akame being at least High 7-A, likely Higher. BoS Night Raid will be At least Low 7-C. Witn EoS being Likely Low 7-B. This scaling comes from Bulat being comparable to Esdeath in her beginnings, so Budo scales as well.
