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666:Satan revisions

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Alright, currently Satan is rated Low 4-C in his third phase and 4-B with Na Bong Chim. This is false, as Satan attempted to go 250,000X in his second phase, but Mo-Ri stopped him.

As seen here: http://www.zingbox.me/manga/The God Of High School/6321/17298423/2/205186/chapter292 (Page 63/123)

So Satan has never gone 250,000X before. Now you might me asking, 'Then how did he match Mo-Ri Jin 250,000X if he never went 250,000X?' The answer is simple... He went into phase 3. (Page 77/123)

This means that phase 3 Satan is straight up 4-B, and not just when he is acupuncture boosted.

So to summarise, current Satan phase 2 and 3 should be changed. Phase 2 should have an added 'possibly 4-B with Na Bong Chim Acupuncture 250,000X', and phase 3 should be straight up 4-B.

Thoughts?
 
This is not a downgrade, this is a change. Satan fought acupunture boosted Mo-Ri in phase 3, and should just be 4-B in that phase. Phase 2 will have everything it has now, with the added 'possibly 4-B with Na Bong Chim Acupuncture 250,000X'
 
I'll take another look, but I'm pretty sure that when I made the changes the first time, I took the timing between the form changes into account.

I don't think Satan ever got a single hit on x250k Mo-Ri.

And there's no "possibly" about Satan being 4-B with X250K. He copied the technique and had his finger to his head ready to use it when Mo-Ri blitzed him and grabbed his hand.
 
Basically what Monarch said

He has the exact same abilities as Jin with Na Bong Chim acupuncture, and they were about equal in AP before the boost. Jin is Solar System level via 250,000x power boost, which is what Satan would've done had Jin not used the blood sealing technique on him.
 
Ok, but my point still stands, phase 3 Satan is 4-B without any boosters.
 
Yeah I agree that Phase 3 is 4-B without any boosters. In fact if anything - if he has demonstrated a 250k boost - then Phase 3 should be even more powerful.
 
I'm not so sure

During their fight, Satan went Phase 3 after Jin went 250k and destroyed all his clones and reduced him to a head, and still wasn't much of a match for him.

Jin basically goes on to pummel him some more (even though he's in Phase 3), and even when Satan uses the power of the sun, Jin still just kicks through it and injures Satan in return.

Jin did have to summon Hui to finish the fight, but even then, Satan was blown apart and killed (remember how he lost one of his two lives and had to resurrect?), and then he still had to regenerate some of the additional damage, meaning that his durability is still leagues below Jin's AP.

He's only really able to hurt Jin when he suffers from the Rebound of Na Bong Chim, meaning he lost the 250k boost.

Here's the two chapters where this is shown:

http://*********.com/Manga/The-God-of-High-School/Ep--291?id=342678

http://*********.com/Manga/The-God-of-High-School/Ep--292?id=342937
 
I can see Phase 3 Satan being 4-B for being able to repeatedly survive hits from 250k Jin and not be splattered like phase 2 did.If they weren't comparable then Satan should've gotten splattered again and Jin shouldn't have had to rely on a ohko to try and kill Satan, not saying Phase 3 Satan = 250k Jin but he should be around that level either in AP and DB or at least in just DB which isn't surprising since Satan was pretty easily tanking Jin's hits and stomping him before Jin went 250k.
 
PTSOXMONKEY99 said:
I'm not so sure
During their fight, Satan went Phase 3 after Jin went 250k and destroyed all his clones and reduced him to a head, and still wasn't much of a match for him.

Jin basically goes on to pummel him some more (even though he's in Phase 3), and even when Satan uses the power of the sun, Jin still just kicks through it and injures Satan in return.

Jin did have to summon Hui to finish the fight, but even then, Satan was blown apart and killed (remember how he lost one of his two lives and had to resurrect?), and then he still had to regenerate some of the additional damage, meaning that his durability is still leagues below Jin's AP.

He's only really able to hurt Jin when he suffers from the Rebound of Na Bong Chim, meaning he lost the 250k boost.

Here's the two chapters where this is shown:

http://*********.com/Manga/The-God-of-High-School/Ep--291?id=342678

http://*********.com/Manga/The-God-of-High-School/Ep--292?id=342937
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This

This is why I did not rate Phase 3 as 4-B
 
Sequence of events was like this:

Satan infinite clones -> Jin goes x250K and oneshots all the clones -> Satan attempts to use 250K -> Jin stops him with acupuncture paralysis -> Jin uses all his martial techniques at once to destroy most of Satan's body -> Satan goes phase 3 -> Jin beats Satan up even more -> Satan absorbs the corona of the sun into an attack and shoots a giant laster -> Jin kicks through the laser and injures Satan -> rebound effects start to occur -> Jin channels Hui as his Charyoek and kills Satan with a final attack -> Rebound effects happen

(then Satan comes back, but meh)

So as you see, nothing Satan did in Phase 3 phased (heh) Jin X250K.
 
@Monarch

Don't forget that after Satan knocks Jin back to earth, Jin proceeds to drop out of Monkey King Mode, and still managed to counter a kick from Satan and knock him out of Phase 3 and back into Phase 1

@Gar

Not sure, actually. Towards the end of the Satan vs Jin battle, they hinted that there may be beings who trump even the gods of the heavenly realm.
 
He was already suffering the rebound effect at that point, and he had broken his Loop of Binding to get some unclear boost (Satan explicitly says that Jin's physical power and damage are the same).

I brought up that it means Jin with his limiter removed is 4-B in base if he countered a kick and knocked Satan out of phase 3, who had just been taking a ton of hits from X250K Mo-Ri, but...

The scaling during that fight is horrible honestly. If we took it at face-value, both of them can scale their Durability to the other one's AP throughout the fight even after one boosts, but the other doesn't, which means that the other one had that Durability to begin with, which means that the other one must have had that AP to begin with, so the boost would push them even higher up the Tier scale, but that still scales their boosted boosted AP to the other's base durability... etc etc etc
 
@Gar He never actually uses 250K, but Jin was worried enough about him doing it to stop him. So we can at least say he'd be stronger than 250K Jin. After Jin breaks his limiter though, idk
 
I know he didn't use it, I'm just saying if he hypothetically did use it would he be the strongest character in the verse, barring those we don't actually know.

Judging by your responses it's unknown
 
It seems like that character gave Jin a boost to take out Satan or something but I guess we will have to wait until we find out what Jin meant.
 
@Monarch

Basically yeah. He does appear to get some kind of power boost post 250k, but just what it was is unknown. Though I agree that we can't scale durability to AP. It works the other way if you're main method of attack is punching, but not vice versa.

@Gar

He would definitely be one of the physically strongest. Iirc, the reason Jin was so worried about Satan boosting himself because Jin's own limit was 250k, and he also had to worry about Rebound. Satan had already shown that Rebound was nothing to him, and it's likely that his limit for boosting was higher than Jin's, since Satan has shown to be more proficient at using the powers he copies (his planet toss was considerably more powerful than Han Dae-Wi's, so much so that he needed help from Hui Mo-Rin to push the tossed planets back to earth).

Though, I wonder if people with durability negating powers like Dae-Wi would be able to harm 250k Satan (assuming Satan hasn't already blitzed and copies there power).

Holy shit, imagine if Satan had copied all of The King of Nox's powers
 
But phase 3 still survived a beating from a Mo-Ri willing to kill. There was no way Satan could have survived long enough to fire his eye beams if he was only Low 4-C.
 
i heard i think that the woman who was protecting Jin Mori was his mother i believe or one of his friends from the sage realm who was traveling with him on his legendary quest we all know about the MOnkey king ovo
 
Yea, Satan should have it.

A lot of abilities and stuff are missing on the profiles like Jin being able to learn or mimic any fighting style after seeing it once, the Core Element, Fiery Eyes and Golden Pupils and probably some resistances he should have from fighting certain characters.
 
Remind me, what were those last three things again? (The Core Element was the thing Jin got on his journey through the Heavenly Realm, right?)
 
Yea, and the Fiery Eyes and Golden Pupils (technically 1 thing) allow him to see further and understand languages he had no idea how to speak.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Bump
Shouldn't x52 Acapuncture have High 4C Durability?
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At least Small Star level (Matched a bloodlusted Mo-Ri blow-for-blow and had the upper-hand for much of their fight) Up to Large Star level with Na Bong Chim Limiter Removal 52X (Withstood the force of his own blows)
 
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