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A faceless guy fights against a clown

Yeah, Slenderman vs Pennywise...

> Both at 7-C

> Speed Equalized

Who wins and why?

Slendy:

Penny:
7 (Stefano4444, MrKingOfNegativity, VersusJunkie54, HeadlessKramerGeoff777, Vizorus69, Larry.z.eata and Starter Pack)

Inconclusive:
 
They both have the same AP tier, and Penny doesn't have a calc.

That said, Pennywise takes this quite easily. Its mind manip is a great deal superior, regen (as I see it) isn't something that can be bypassed easily in this scenario, and the clown's illusions aren't something that Slenderman can counter.
 
Yeah, from what I can see, definitely voting Pennywise FRA.

(Well, that made short work of that! Looks like we have seven votes for Pennywise!)
 
Wait, I'll try to play the Devil's Advocate here...

Pennywise rarely tries to go for the kill right away. Her Mind Manipulation mostly works by the inducement of fear and casting of illusions, and of course, revealing the Deadlights to someone. Of those, only the latter is effective, and she rarely does so, especially when she is "fighting" someone. (Since 90% of the time she considers fights as merely playing with somebody)

Not only that, but IT's durability varies, but it is usually VERY LOW or based around one's fears, and I don't think the Slenderman is quite afraid of anything. I mean, the only thing I can think of that can scare him is someone with the eight pages, and even then it is a MASSIVE stretch to say even such a thing; at most it enrages him. And by taking the shape of a human, Pennywise is going to have a horrible time...

The fight would go like this:

  • Pennywise attempts to play with Slendy's fears.
  • Slendy either gets angry or is not affected.
  • If the former, he insta-kills Pennywise out of anger by fire and tentacle-spam.
  • If the latter, he'll try to mindhax Pennywise, that realises that he is a bit more dangerous than usual prey, and uses the Deadlights on him. Slendy gets insane.
I'm guessing Inconclusive? I mean, Slenderman got a pretty short temper from what I remember in the games, and if he got angry, he'd go all-out on Pennywise instead of mindhaxxing him.
 
How does slendy get past his Regen, reality Warping, better feats, invisibility, better mind hax, his own teleportation, Illusion creation, Possession, immortality, weather Manipulation and Madness Manipulation. Both of them tend to screw around at first but Penny has better variety and durability compared to this version of Slenderman.
 
Pennywise only really plays around with human enemies' fears. (Which, sadly, is what the entire IT novel consisted of as far as the entity was concerned, but whatever) It does this because humans are what it feeds on, and because fear, in its own words, "floods the body and salts the meat", which is another way of saying it makes people taste good. I'm not sure if it would consider an eldritch thing like Slenderman to be worth eating, let alone attempt to play with its fears to make it tastier. But I don't want to say anything for certain.

Furthermore, it has the ability to read minds and memories, hence why it's capable of observing those fears to begin with. I'm sure that if it reads Slendy's mind and sees...whatever the hell is in there, it's not going to want to play around at all.

Beyond that, even when it's "playing around" with people, it has a tendency to screw them over with illusions and perception manipulation. One of the very first scenes in the book shows it tricking two people into seeing two completely different things happening at the same time, and making those two things happen at the same time.
 
HeadlessKramerGeoff777 said:
How does slendy get past his Regen, reality Warping, better feats, invisibility, better mind hax, his own teleportation, Illusion creation, Possession, immortality, weather Manipulation and Madness Manipulation.
Invisibility is selective, and it doesn't use that on those it's attempting to hunt. Only on others who it doesn't want to see what's going on.

Weather manipulation doesn't do anything as far as combat goes.

Madness manipulation is mainly limited to its true form, though the act of staring into its eyes can trigger it in a victim as well.
 
@Headless

  • Rege: Turning him to ash. Slendy has fire. Pennywise has, afaic, Street-level durability at most. Slendy has Town-level fire. You see where I'm going with this. EDIT: Normally. With transformations it may get higher, but still lower than Town-level.
  • Reality warping: ... I'm pretty sure, from what I recall from the novel, that what Pennywise does with RW isn't that useful offensively, at least not against someone like Slendy.
  • Illusions: I've already explained why. They're based mostly on fear and bizarre visions, both of which wouldn't work on Slendy.
  • Madness: Pennywise does so by revealing the Deadlights, which he only does so when going all-out.
  • Possession: Pennywise can only possess dead people afaic. I need to double check that though.
  • Immortality: His immortality is weird, in the sense he'd probably not die if reduced to ash, but if that was done to him, he'd indeed be defeated for a VERY long time. It'd still count, I think.
  • Better feats: Feats are circumstantial. You can't just say that "better AP feats means he's stronger". He may be able to cause more damage, but unlike Slendy, Pennywise's durability feats are horrible.
  • Invisibility: Omnidirectional attacks and passive mindhax.
  • Teleportation: OK, Slendy teleports as well. And even so, why would he teleport? Frankly, it wouldn't help much.
Better durability? I beg to differ. Slendy can resist the very stuff he causes pretty constantly, and on the very least he isn't harmed by fires and general destruction of trees in the area he is in. Pennywise's best durability feat that I recall of is basically not dying, while still being physically wounded by a bullet.

@King

That's indeed true.

Mhm, I agree with you.

Still, both of them have passive mind manipulation. The type of Pennywise's normal mind manip - perception screwing and fear inducing - is significantly less useful than Slendy's - passive mindhax of coercion - in this specific scenario.

I change my vote to Pennywise, you've convinced me. While both have ways to mutually kill each other, I think Pennywise is the more likely one to do so.
 
I'd also add that Pennywise's durability in humanoid forms probably scales to its Wall level physical feats when transformed into those. From what I remember (admittedly I'm still in the process of rereading the book), it was capable of ripping people apart fairly easily, which constitutes Wall level physical AP. At the very least, it was able to break multiple ribs in a guy's ribcage just by lightly squeezing the person.

But yeah, that means shit against 7-C AP.

I really need to finish the book so I can get started with a CRT for the profile. There's still a whole lot that needs to be changed, added and specified further.
 
I am voting for inconclusive, at the end, most of Pennywise abilities are to mindscrew people.

Does that type of stuff even work with Slendy?

No idea, but whatever, at the end, both of them go take a tea and hunt children together.

And that's how Slenderwoman was created.

As fear of Slender getting laid.

The End
 
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