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****, I was gonna make this match.....

Ah well, going with Fiamma for now, can't really see a way for Doom to get past HR, and Fiamma loves to snipe across the planet with it.
 
Doom's Cosmic Power Siphon Harness would definitely strip Fiamma of everything he has considering it can take Galactus' power.
 
It's part of his armor. If he can't get through Holy Right I'm sure he'd get bored and pull it out. This is base Fiamma, so what can he really do to Doom? His armor's magic resistance will keep him from getting through easily.
 
Well, that type of mistakes happen when you had a name such Fiamma.

Whatever, Doom just walks and destroys he--- him.
 
Zensum said:
Fiamma wins HR ends the fight too fast for doom to counter
^this, and fiamma defense is kind of instant too. But i might be biased toward fiamma because i don't know doom enough.
 
Eganergo said:
^this, and fiamma defense is kind of instant too. But i might be biased toward fiamma because i don't know doom enough.
Yeah doom could pull off the win with the right prep but HR is just too descive here. Its 'attack' would just bypass his defense and end it.
 
Do you guys even look at Doom's profile? He can Hax the likes of Galactus, anyone who makes eye contact with him is mind haxed, he can time travel almost at will, he passively absorbs the attacks of his enemy, has defeated numerous Universal, Multiversal and Higher-Dimensional beings through sheer cunning.

Doom is so haxed that for every way Fiamma may win, Doom has 5.

Hell, give DOOM some prep time and he takes down the ToAru Heaven as a whole and them becomes the God Emperor of their universe.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Hell, give DOOM some prep time and he takes down the ToAru Heaven as a whole and them becomes the God Emperor of their universe.


Speaking of which, is Tier 1 To Aru still getting downgraded, Matt?
 
Uhhhhhh Guys.....

The only reasons were made when Fiamma was High 6A so he couldn't do anything to Doom, not sure if those reasons really apply now.

Doom still wrecks his shit however.
 
I don't know exactly what Fiamma can do because our To Aru pages are apparently garbage and nearly every time there's a thread someone brings up like 500 things that Fiamma doesn't have listed on his page.

Regardless, Doom has a Durability advantage, both just in his armor and with his forcefield, so it's not like Fiamma is going to be able to damage him much. He can reprogram Fiamma's teleportation destinations to put him anywhere he wants, such as on another planet. He can deal with or outright negate most of his spells with his own repertoire of magic and technology. This is without getting into time travel - Doom can travel both into the same timeline to change its past and into the past to make new timelines, and he can also temporally BFR Fiamma.

Doom has a big versatility advantage, and a big intelligence advantage. He doesn't need to use the Power Cosmic Siphon Harness to win, but if he does use it, yes, Fiamma is very done.
 
Promestein said:
I don't know exactly what Fiamma can do because our To Aru pages are apparently garbage and nearly every time there's a thread someone brings up like 500 things that Fiamma doesn't have listed on his page.
This needed to be said.
 
MrKingOfNegativity said:
Promestein said:
I don't know exactly what Fiamma can do because our To Aru pages are apparently garbage and nearly every time there's a thread someone brings up like 500 things that Fiamma doesn't have listed on his page.
This needed to be said.


Here's an example:

Hamazura Shiage

Also, again, should we downgrade High 1-C? Matt was planning to do it, and it seems like a pretty big issue.
 
Also, Fiammas 5B status, is bullshit.

We do not accept statements to bring a person up to a significant tier, otherwise.

3A Dante

Originally 4C Bayonetta.
 
@Teen:

Trust me, I've seen the pages. And I've seen plenty of VS matches centered around them, too.

The only three To Aru profiles that I can actually remember being good were the ones for Touma, Izzard and Aleister.
 
Also, if Tier 1 gets downgraded, should they even be 2-A? The only reasoning for that was a "can destroy infinite universes" statement. Which, is not only just a statement, but there's also the fact alternate universes/timelines don't exist.
 
It was actually something like a Magic God still being able to destroy a universe even after being infinitely weakened.
 
Doctor Doom wins for reasons above, wasn't he established as possibly the new strongest 5-B character?
 
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