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Who would win? The King of Monsters or One Small Boi

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Godzilla (Showa) vs Ness

Both 7-C

Speed Equalized

Who wins and why?

Fight Takes Place in Summers

King of the Monsters: 1 (Kaiser Kōnt)

One Small Boi: 7 (ShadowGamerOmega, Chrisras, SITHISIT, Ricsi-viragosi, KazuiK, Noahkaismith, and Jamesthetaker)

Inconclusive:
 
I'm not that knowledgeable about Godzilla, but just based off of the profiles, I'd go with Ness since he has a much more versatile ability spread.
 
The only real problem I see for Ness is Godzillas reactive evolution (If it is usable in a battle), but considering the fact that he's at max 9 kilotons while Ness is stronger then someone thats stronger then the dude who perform a 20 kilotons feat, I say he has that covered.

The rest is pretty much what Shadow said, he's much more versatile, with the abilitie to reflect attacks back at the enemy while receiving half the damage, and considering that he has already tanked nuclear energy and energy manipulation from the UFO's and Starmen laser, this should work, he also has heal, statistics amplification with pills, range to keep up, and Godzilla has no resistance against any of Ness's status effects, so he shouldn't even fight back. And finally, considering that the fight takes place in summers, it would be more likely for Ness to try to defeat him faster, since the city is in danger, so he throwing the best he has at the start is the most likely option.

I'll say Ness.
 
Ness FRA

also dont say "vote counted" everytime someone votes. thats unnessesarily adding replies lol, u can just add it at the top and not waste replies.
 
Kaiser Kōnt said:
900 kilotons (Mothra feat)>>>>64 kilotons (Godzilla feat)>>>30 kilotons (Casual Ebirah feat)>>>>Ness (20 kilotons)
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I don't think this is that valid of an argument. The whole feat surrounding Ness' 7-C rating cannot be calculated from a lack of information, so 20 kilos is an assumption and not even a solid rating. Secondly, Ness' powershields turn Godzilla's 64 kilos into 32, which considerably lessens the gap between the two. Then you have to consider Ness' PSI abilities. Lifeup Gamma is a full recovery move which Ness can spam to keep alive, and Flash Omega's chance to OHKO is 37.5%, so it's bound to happen eventually. Due to a lack of abilities, I don't see Godzilla winning here. Again, I am not knowledgeable on Godzilla, but this is how I see it based off of the profiles we have.
 
That sounds like game mechanic central.

Even leaving 11 megatons out of the party you still have 900 kilotons done by Mothra, who Godzilla is superior to.
 
Kaiser Kōnt said:
That sounds like game mechanic central.

Even leaving 11 megatons out of the party you still have 900 kilotons done by Mothra, who Godzilla is superior to.
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And because they are game mechanics, they are not valid? It's much more logical to follow the conventions of the game, considering that if you don't, you have to make even more assumptions. Flash Omega OHKOs 37.5% of the time, this cannot be argued. Lifeup Gamma fully restores health, this cannot be argued. Ness' shields cut all damage in half, this cannot be argued.

This rebuttal would hold weight if it was criticizing something like scaling the endgame enemies to Low 2-C for being able to damage Ness (which is stupid game mechanics at its finest), but that is not the case here.
 
Game mechanics aren't considered valid a lot of the time. As how Kirby gets defeated by apples or something like that. Even then, doesn't that just affect someone's PSI and not their real strength?

I don't know much about that though if it was endgame enemies it could be reasonable.
 
Kaiser Kōnt said:
Game mechanics aren't considered valid a lot of the time. As how Kirby gets defeated by apples or something like that. Even then, doesn't that just affect someone's PSI and not their real strength?

I don't know much about that though if it was endgame enemies it could be reasonable.
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I understand that game mechanics are left out if they are unreasonable (as you said, Kirby or any other game character being defeated by trivial things), however Ness' PSI having the effects they do is not unreasonable.

Also, Ness is Low 2-C and the rest of the party remains 7-C, so the endgame enemies are 7-C as well. In fact, the 7-C feat comes from one of the endgame enemies, which is the Nuclear Reactor Robot.
 
Maybe some effects? Though I would consider exact things like percents game mechanics. A lot aren't consistent.

Really? Understood
 
Kaiser Kōnt said:
Maybe some effects? Though I would consider exact things like percents game mechanics. A lot aren't consistent.

Really? Understood
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Perhaps 37.5% is too specific to be the actual odds, which I understand you for. However, it still has a pretty realistic chance of being able to OHKO Godzilla if it is successful. Godzilla would probably win if he exhausted Ness' Pp, but with the amount of times he can use flash (7-C Ness' Pp caps at about 265, and since Flash Omega costs 32, he can use it about 8 times. Since he needs to heal and shield though, this number would likely be less), he should be able to win. Godzilla still has a possibility of victory, though this battle would appear to favor Ness quite a bit.
 
GreyFang82 said:
Not to mention status effects like sleep, paralysis, and blindness would up his chances
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Uncontrollable crying rather than blindness, but yeah. Also, don't forget that Flash can also cause strangeness, which could make Godzilla attack himself or other things that aren't Ness.
 
Godzilla has some Regenerationn in Showa also, with high stamina and a strength advantage. OHKOs sound like game mechanics to me also, though I will buy that. Ness has some stuff to stand up to Godzilla but I don't think he can beat him, so high-diff Showa Godzilla in my opinion. Flash is an attack or blind move?

Not to mention status effects like sleep, paralysis, and blindness would up his chances

Godzilla would probably be more resistant to that than usual
 
Flash is an offensive PSI, so yes, it is an attack. It's described as a "glorious flash of light" that has random effects on its targets. The Omega level's effects are Instant Death (37.5%), Paralysis (12.5%), Strangeness (12.5%), and Crying (37.5%). Some enemies have a natural resistance to Flash, though it is difficult to say if Godzilla would qualify for this. If the instant death doesn't occur, then one of the other status effects will.
 
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