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Reinhard Heydrich vs Avatar of Calamity

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Takes place in one of that possibilities where Homura fails to stop The Avatar of Calamity. The damn thing is stronger than she thought and was about to gives in to despair. But suddenly, a flying golden castel appeared from nowhere with a certain golden ma standing in front of it. She thought that this man is someone that Madoka sent to help her. Can the man vanquish the evil creature once and for all, or will the creature succeed fulfilling its purpose to bring the destruction of Multiverse.

Dies Irae Reinhard with the access to LDO legion while AoC has been buffed to 4-C. Starts from 20 meters apart and speed is equalized. Win by any conditions and Rein's type 8 is restricted.


ReinhardDI
The savior of Multiverse?

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The Destroyer of Multiverse?

Reinhard Heydrich: 1 (SK)
Avatar of Calamity: 7 (Phoenix, Gar, Kal, SD, Peter, Ovens, Monarch)

Inconclusive:
 
I mean.

AoC for reasons stated in the previous thread?

Thank god I thought you were going to make Akron vs AoC
 
@Gar Hm....how so? I mean, He has more arsenal in his possession now. I thought it would make a difference.
 
More Arsenal such as...!

....The spear Mind haxes people....Which wouldn't work on AoC...

If you mean by more Arsenal you mean a worthless mind hax and no AP advantage, sure, I guess...
 
well tbf spear has soul hax by looking at it but...time stomp is a bitch+life drain...

Unless his gay friend resets and starts to erase AoC from existence
 
It actually would work on the AoC. But it needs to see the spear, and if they start 4 km away, it would attack Rein via sensing him, not looking at him.
 
No, I mean. He has that "F-you, I'm faster than you", "Nazi one punch", "overpowered version of Natsu", and etc.
 
Yeah, AoC still wins for the same reasons as the previous thread.

Also Reinhard is your next choice out of the thousands of other ideas....
 
F-you I'm faster weakness is time stop and will make wolfie ejected out of that state, nazi one punch man needs melee range, eleonore maybe the best option cause she can passive soul burn but it's MUDA if time stop because I don't think her flames can affect in stop time...
 
Homu Sweet Homu said:
No, I mean. He has that "F-you, I'm faster than you", "Nazi one punch", "overpowered version of Natsu", and etc.
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Speed is Equalized

Same as 6A

Same as 6A.
 
well...he loves everyone tbf so there is that :V
 
AoC can also accelerate its own time. Even then, Reinhard has to win before the AoC can touch him / consider the idea of draining him
 
I mean, it kinda does unless NF is Reinhard's first move
 
spear is used more than NF...let that sink in for a second
 
actually speed equal shouldn't null NF it's his RW ability to make a rule where he is at least one step ahead of you. It's like ren's EFO except ren's EFO is also time manipulation in a sense just to himself
 
Welp... Can she deal with massive spatial "burst"? Schreiber and Machina can shatter space and pocket dimensions with roars, while restricted and with raw power. Reinhard is leagues above the two, since his mere shadow/avatar was ripping space. Also, Gladsheimr is already active with 8 Swastikas, and Reinhard would most likely send his Einherjars to attack.

If Machina hits AoC with his Yetzirah or Briah, bye bye AoC.

If AoC BFR's Reinhard, he can come back with Gladsheimr, wich exists outside Creation and between Creation and the Hiperdimensional Throne.

Reinhard isn't that cocky, and he can sense power levels and test AoC a bit, since he attacks with all that he has if the enemy is on his level.
 
Nah. But can Reinhard prevent a simple thought? Because it takes only that. Matter of fact, AoC passively drains the near surroundings.

Also, you sure that it can come back from BFR which is too much for this girl (strongest key)?

Not cocky, no. But unless bloodlusted it shouldn't be "spear gg" either
 
Gladsheimr is a Singularity that can exist outside This guy world, and send Reinhard and his Legion to anywhere in the multiverse.
 
Has Gladheimr ever show to be comeback from nonexistence timeline before? The BFR is too much for an immeasurable, possibly omnipresent, 2-A characters strongest than Ult. Madoka, who cannot eve enter the said nonexistence timeline despite being an omnipresent.

Also, has everyone forgetting that AoC still has that broken duplication?
 
Gladsheimr can exist outside an 1-A Creation, between said creation and the thing above that (The Throne), Homu. This is way more potent than "going to a nonexistence timeline".

Can she duplicate a guy wich existence is linked and exists to kill a 1-A? Likely, Reinhard's existence is just the death wish of Mercurius. And all Swastikas are open here, right? If so, Reinhard will constantly soul wipe the surroundings and get even more stronger.
 
It should be able to duplicate anything that isn't specifically due to his status. Like, it can't copy the spear. But it can copy the LDO members for example.
 
Then how the hell he lost to Lavos then? The reason Lavos won is BFR to nonexistence as well. Also, I see his range and it listed as Multiversal with Gldaheimr, which wouldn't help him against BFR. I'm waiting for a proof of it can travelles from something that trappen even an omnipresent being.

How is Reinhad linked to Merc relevant to this? I thought all his connection to him is restricted here. Unless, Reinhard ever shown to have a "blessing-like" resistance like Kharn. AoC can creates an army of Reinhard, with each of them are superior than the original, to ganged up on him (each of them arw gonna have their own Gladsheimr by the way)
 
Wasn't the can this character copy/duplicate Reinhard already explained in the Altair vs Reinhard thread? Yes said characters can copy/duplicate Reinhard but they can't copy/duplicate his spear.
 
His spear and Gladsheimr are part of himself, and all the LDO are just souls from Gladsheimr, wich in turn is the Singularity of Eigo-Kaiki (Mercurius' Law and World). In Lavos vs Reinhard, no one considered that fact.

That's the problem.

Altair vs Reinhard was like "Altair changes the plot, gg" and not "Altair copies, gg"
 
Reinhard's IMMORTALITY via Mercurius is restricted, but not his status as an Apoptosis.
 
Somebody also asked can Altair copy Reinhard in that thread and it was decided that she can copy him but not his spear. Before the ability was deemed useless since her copy is most likely weaker than the original due to the massive AP difference between the two.
 
Madoka is singularity of Cause and Effect, and she still get copied. Not to mention, Madoka doesn't even exist back then, she was copied based on Homura's memories which is also made the duplication to be more potent than we thought.

His status as Apoptosis doesn't mean anything if Merc ain't gonna butt in the fight anyway.

Sill doesn't answer about the BFR.
 
Gladsheimr Singularity Nature >>> Singularity of Causality.

This thing literally exists between a 1-A thing and the rest of Creation. Thats a Singularity, the place where two Hadou Gods duel to the death, not in the Throne neither in the Creation.

As I said, no one considered Gladsheimr "Singularity" status in Lavos thread.
 
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