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Goku Vs Estark
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Is that a vote for Goku?
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Goku is far more versatile than Estark. Plus he can dodge whatever ice, fire or electricity he can throw. Assuming even if it hits, Goku has shown resistqnce to electricity and there is still discussion going on whether he scales to Vegeta's resistance to absolute zero.
Anyway, reactive evolution, instinctive reaction and a huuuuge versatility advantage give Goku the win. He has a lot more effective techniques to work with. I can finally say Goku wins by simply being Goku.
Anyway, reactive evolution, instinctive reaction and a huuuuge versatility advantage give Goku the win. He has a lot more effective techniques to work with. I can finally say Goku wins by simply being Goku.
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Goku should take this for the reasons stated above.
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Ok
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Goku takes this for the reasons above.
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Son Goku takes this for reasons above.
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Bump
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I will ask something stark has an attack call Disruptive Wave
Is posible to this technique to nullify ultra instinct? In dragon quest Viii he can nullify tension boost which increase the next attack and ultra instinct has this definition: :
A technique learned from Whis. In this state, Goku's body is capable of subconsciously avoiding attacks, disregarding his own capability to react, allowing him to effectively multitask
voting goku only if this Disruptive wave is useless
Is posible to this technique to nullify ultra instinct? In dragon quest Viii he can nullify tension boost which increase the next attack and ultra instinct has this definition: :
A technique learned from Whis. In this state, Goku's body is capable of subconsciously avoiding attacks, disregarding his own capability to react, allowing him to effectively multitask
voting goku only if this Disruptive wave is useless
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I believe Disruptive wave is only for stat changes as it is stated: "it nullifies all stat changes, such as those caused by buffs". That is directly stating that it nullifies stat amp.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOldiyyYEkM
second 20 "michael reaches a state of super high tension!!!"
Can you see my point? I think the same as you but i want to see the opinion of the rest
second 20 "michael reaches a state of super high tension!!!"
Can you see my point? I think the same as you but i want to see the opinion of the rest
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According to the wiki it states: "Tension is a status effect in the Dragon Quest game series."
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Goku wins because he outdoes Estark in options and tenacity, but Distuptive Wave would cancel out the boosts for Ultra Instinct Omen.
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Okay, I think 7 wins for Son Goku; and yet another victory. I'm so glad Son Goku's actually winning most of his matches.
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i think that cal said that stark with the wave cancel the reactive evolution ,so goku cant never grow stronger and faster (but speed is equalized) but not the whole TransformationDodoNova2 said:
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It would only cancel the reactive evolution. Meaning, let's say that UIO starts out at baseline Low 2-C and grows little by little each second. Disruptive wave basically just makes it where Son Goku remains baseline Low 2-C. But Son Goku would still be Low 2-C.
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