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Zeref VS Baraggan Louisenbairn

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Kawaru Shotomata said:
Does barragan in resurreccion form ?
well , barragan can blizt and win via hax
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in whatever form he want, also I think his speed difference is not that far compared to zeref (he probably is around twice as fast)
 
^why cant barragan kill people who have long lifespans?

he even caused stones to "age into dust" :I

i give it to barragan ^_^

@jim

i think th double of hypersonic+ can be used for speedblitzing :)
 
GreatestSin said:
^why cant barragan kill people who have long lifespans?
he even caused stones to "age into dust" :I

i give it to barragan ^_^

@jim

i think th double of hypersonic+ can be used for speedblitzing :)
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Ok i'm just thinking about this..zeref is cannot die by old age..just like aizen..and barragan ability is just killing his opponent by make them died by age.. :/

1: Longevity: Longevity is the power to live a long time, people gifted with this type of immortality cannot die from natural causes, old age, illnesses etc, but can be killed by unnatural causes.
 
Not Jim Sterling said:
Ok i'm just thinking about this..zeref is cannot die by old age..just like aizen..and barragan ability is just killing his opponent by make them died by age.. :/

1: Longevity: Longevity is the power to live a long time, people gifted with this type of immortality cannot die from natural causes, old age, illnesses etc, but can be killed by unnatural causes.
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yeah, he also described his powers that way but he even used it on not living organisms, it is more like some kind of decay/atomization fog that a super-aging one :(

PS: isnt aizen totally immortal? the coucil of the shinigami tried to kill him but it didnt work right?
 
GreatestSin said:
Not Jim Sterling said:
Ok i'm just thinking about this..zeref is cannot die by old age..just like aizen..and barragan ability is just killing his opponent by make them died by age.. :/

1: Longevity: Longevity is the power to live a long time, people gifted with this type of immortality cannot die from natural causes, old age, illnesses etc, but can be killed by unnatural causes.
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yeah, he also described his powers that way but he even used it on not living organisms, it is more like some kind of decay/atomization fog that a super-aging one :(
PS: isnt aizen totally immortal? the coucil of the shinigami tried to kill him but it didnt work right?
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no, aizen is Type 1 & 3 immortality,

but anyway even if is turn out that barragan ability won't work against zeref at least he still have his speed advantage (now i'm glad i don't equalize their speed lol)
 
depends, that type 1 immortality could be argued with the fact that all shinigami are technically type 1 immortals also, and respira still works.
 
Barragan's is more hax, he doesn't just kill, he speeds up time. You need to be massively faster than Barragan to get him (like Soi Fon's missiles)
 
in case zeref don't get speedblitzing first then I think fairy law should be enough to bypass Barragan defence since zeref is the one who teach fairy law to mavis.
 
^yeah, i forgot that spell, with fairy law zeref wins, otherwise i think barragans hax will overcome zerefs magic (since it destroyed kido (bleach spells) i think with verse equiv it will destroy fairy tail spell in the same way) ^_^
 
KuuIchigo said:
What does Fairy Law even do? All I remember is it burnt someone.
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beatting everyone that you considering as your enemy or something like that.

edit: blame my internet...
 
^it seems to be some kind of spell that simply defeat the ones which the caster beliefs are totally the bad guys, it is durability ignoring one-shot-defeat thing kind of like the holy right of fiamma from toaru ^_^ (but it does have a limit in range)
 
KuuIchigo said:
Isn't that a case of NLF? I wonder what the limit is.
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well makarov capable to one shot someone that around his power with fairy law, and barragan is pretty much the same tier with zeref.
 
LordAizenSama said:
depends, that type 1 immortality could be argued with the fact that all shinigami are technically type 1 immortals also, and respira still works.
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also If this not too much of a bother, can you please create the poll thing like in this Thread? :/
 
Faisal Shourov said:
Not Jim Sterling said:
also If this not too much of a bother, can you please create the poll thing like in this Thread? :/
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Nope, we use proper arguments, 1 word/line answers don't count. New vs thread rule
Okay :/

anyway barragan still dont have answer to zeref time stop ability.
 
Barragan only has speed as an advantage over Zeref, but that's quite moderate given the difference from high-end H+ and HH speeds.

Zeref has a superior DC, Durability (ignores Barragan's respira via Type 1 immortality), has superior range with his death magic, has time stop, etc... he has several advantages over Barragan.

Zeref wins with mid-difficulty. If it were not for the speed gap and that Barragan can seemingly use time-dilation, it would be low-difficulty or even close to a stomp. We also don't know Zeref's other abilities so he might as well be stronger than this wiki has him placed.
 
Well if Zeref wants he can summon hordes of demons with no limitations (not the number but the time of summoning) as the tartaros was running a guild of his creations and he wasn't losing power and he created a lot of zeref books in the past. He also shown Regenerationn so i guess he would have enough time even under respira. Barragan is rather static during fights so i guess it will not be jard to cast Law - it dont need target it works in desired area, he cannot dodge it.Additionaly Respira doesn't kills instantly while Death Predation kills in the moment it touches opponent.
 
Zeref wins easily there's nothing barragan has that could be able to bypass immortality 1+4 and zeref has many means of winning.
 
GreatestSin said:
^it seems to be some kind of spell that simply defeat the ones which the caster beliefs are totally the bad guys, it is durability ignoring one-shot-defeat thing kind of like the holy right of fiamma from toaru ^_^ (but it does have a limit in range)
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anyway are you vote for zeref? just to make sure?
 
^if he uses fairy law than yes, otherwise barragan wins imo, respira aged stones into nothing, i dont think type 1 immortality will protect zeref and any other magic that moves and can be destroyed conventionally should be destroyed by respira too ^_^

since OP didnt restrit fairy law i go with zeref ^_^
 
GreatestSin said:
^if he uses fairy law than yes, otherwise barragan wins imo, respira aged stones into nothing, i dont think type 1 immortality will protect zeref and any other magic that moves and can be destroyed conventionally should be destroyed by respira too ^_^
since OP didnt restrit fairy law i go with zeref ^_^
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well zeref can just stop time, thing that aged something won't work if the time being stopped :p

anyway I will request this as zeref victory.
 
^ywach?

well, he is banned to be used because of until-now-unexplained and seemingly omnipotent power BS,

and second, i think the allmightly would allow him to win, but maybe it doesnt work on "timestop" since he cant "see" it? no idea, we should wait for more infos :/
 
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