Zen'ō vs Simon Belmont

[AKM sama]

Since Simon never showed resistance against EE on Zeno's scale, the votes in favor of Simon which are based on this particular point should not be counted, right?

 

[AKM sama]

^

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

@seventy you got some of the votes mixed up.... AKM sama Warren Valion Knightofannihilation666 at least voted for zeno

 

[Kaltias]

Schrokatze and Aeyu said that this was a stomp and so did J-Man.

Akm, Warren and Knight voted Zen'ō

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

What a terrible night to have a curse

 

[Seventy96]

Really? Oh, i'm sorry.

Zeno: 3 (AKM sama Warren Valio Knightofannihilation666)

Simon: 2 (ZacharyGrossman273 Paulo.junior.969 )

Inconclusive: 1 (Theglassman12)

 

[AKM sama]

Gargoyle's and Fate's votes?

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm not voting

 

[JohnConquest1]

I say Inconclusive, Simon could kill Zeno before he completely destroys the timeline they're in but he's still probably not gonna stop him before he blows up the earth.

 

[Seventy96]

Really? Oh, i'm sorry.

Zeno: 3 (AKM sama Warren Valio Knightofannihilation666)

Simon: 2 (ZacharyGrossman273 Paulo.junior.969 )

Inconclusive: 2 (Theglassman12 JohnConquest1 )

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Simon time stops and then kills Zeno's soul with a good whipping.

 

[Schnee_One]

Didn't Fate say he doesn't lead with that?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I mean, how can you even know? Simon has literally 0 portrayals of his character outside of gameplay, except for Judgment cutscenes pre-battle.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

And he can resist Dracula's existence erasure, which is way above zenos.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

What a terrible night to have a curse

 

[Theglassman12]

Zeno has void manipulation, not existence erasure

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Same thing

 

[Schnee_One]

And he can resist Dracula's existence erasure, which is way above zenos.

Says who?

 

[Kaltias]

Existence erasure is void manipulation applied to someone else. Point is, Simon can resist being turned into nothingness

 

[Theglassman12]

Nope, existence erasure is a weaker void manipulation.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Says who?

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dracula_(Castlevania)


Void Manipulation / Existence Erasing (Can erase souls from existence with the Power of Dominance, and this extends even to Abstract Embodiments like Death)

 

[Schnee_One]

Fair.

Nevermind, voting Simon

 

[Seventy96]

Zeno: 3 (AKM sama Warren Valio Knightofannihilation666)

Simon: 3 (ZacharyGrossman273 Paulo.junior.969 Gargoyle One )

Inconclusive: 2 (Theglassman12 JohnConquest1 )

 

[Cannibalistic999]

Voting zeno

I don't see how dracula's EE is better than zeno's, while zeno can erase a single reality easily, its like saying frieza can resist zeno's EE because he is resistant to it.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Because Dracula can erase conceptual beings

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Has Drac ever used his erasure on Simon?

After seeing everything, probably inconclusive, basically a shoot out and Zeno busts the universe while Simon timestop or something, assuming he doesnt lead with it (no evidence for that) but uses it after Zeno uses his bust, as a oh shit better kill him now, he still ties because even if he kills Zeno he ain't surviving in a void.

 

[Seventy96]

Zeno: 4 (AKM sama Warren Valio Knightofannihilation666 Cannibalistic999 )

Simon: 3 (ZacharyGrossman273 Paulo.junior.969 Gargoyle One )

Inconclusive: 3 (Theglassman12 JohnConquest1 TheJ-ManRequiem )


OFFTOP: Which Castlevania game is the best for begginers like me?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Which kind? Metroidvanua or classic style?

 

[Seventy96]

Both, but explain difference between them.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Metroidvania games generally feature a large interconnected world map the player can explore, though access to parts of the world is often limited by doors or other obstacles that can only be passed once the player has acquired special items, tools, weapons or abilities within the game. Acquiring such improvements can also aid the player in defeating more difficult enemies and locating shortcuts and secret areas, and often includes retracing one's steps across the map. Through this, Metroidvania games include tighter integration of story and level design, careful design of levels and character controls to encourage exploration and experimentation, and a means for the player to become more invested in their player character. Metroidvania games typically are sidescrolling platformers, but can also include other genre types. Though popularized during the early console generations, the genre has seen a resurgence since the 2000s due to critically praised, independently developed games.

Sych games include Symphony of the night, Aria of Sorrow (and every 2d metroid game). Classic is stage based, like mario, theyre also way harder, almost bullshit at times.


Classic? Go either 1 or 3.

For metroidvanua, symphony of the night , but get the remastered one since it cuts load times out and thats better than it sounds. Plus it's the first metroid style Castlevania.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Play either Symphony of the Night or Super Castlevannia IV first.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Get Dracula X Chronicles.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Ah I forgot about super. Rondo of blood is also good.

 

[Theglassman12]

Avoid the NES castlevania games unless you REALLY want a challenge. Super Castlevania 4, and Rondo of blood are good starting points for classic castlevania sidescrolling action. Symphony, Aria, or Portrait of Ruins are good starting points for the metroidvania part of castlevania.

 

[Seventy96]

Bump.

 

[Seventy96]

Bump.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Japanese Famicon version of the classic Castlevania games are actually easier than the American versions.

Akumajou Dracula for the Famicon has the option of an Easy Mode which doesn't have the knockback when you get hit. And Akumajou Densetsu, on top of having a superior soundtrack due to making use of a Famicon chip, also removes the artificial difficulty that the US version has where it increases the damage enemies do with every level.

 

[Warren_Valion]

The Japanese Famicon version of the classic Castlevania games are actually easier than the American versions.
Akumajou Dracula for the Famicon has the option of an Easy Mode which doesn't have the knockback when you get hit. And Akumajou Densetsu, on top of having a superior soundtrack due to making use of a Famicon chip, also removes the artificial difficulty that the US version has where it increases the damage enemies do with every level.

Castlevania without knockback?

You're blowing my mind here Matt.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yup, it's insane. The game becomes hilariously easy even though Easy Mode changes nothing else.

 

[Seventy96]

Bump.