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Yuki Nagato vs Zen´o
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I believe that Yuki Nagato would win due to some higher amount of versatility. She has the powers of Haruhi, whom managed to split a timeline in half and then merge them together, resulting in two separate timelines. Due to her splitting the Timeline, it would also be reasonable to assume that Haruhi could destroy the two Timelines as well, both of which likely contain a numerous number of Universes, and by having Haruhi's powers, Yuki should be able to easily do the same as her. I vote for Yuki.
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Yuki outhaxes and is bloodlusted by nature, so I'll go for her now.
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Oh my Yuki time stops and it's a rap.
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Given Yuki doesn't hold back, she outhaxes Zeno and time stops or reality warps or etc. to win.
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Le speed equal.
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Yuki FRA?
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Yuki FRA indeed.
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Yuki FRA. She haxes Zeno to death.
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Inconclusive. Speed is equal and both start off with instant kill attacks.
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She could time stop Zeno before he does anything.
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how likely is she to open with it in character? This isn't bloodlusted
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In this form she only warped reality so to fuse two timelines, but she is rather likely to do so. 50/50 I guess.
However, Zeno will not erase right away, he will at the very least want to see what he is fighting.
However, Zeno will not erase right away, he will at the very least want to see what he is fighting.
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Yuki wrecks with hax FRA
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Wait a while, we had reached 7 votes for Yuki, before @Emperor arrived, is this unanimous or not?
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@DragonEmperor23 ^^^^Ricsi-viragosi said:
@Enryu I think it's unanimous.
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The votes we have so far:
Yuki Nagato: 9 (Yakushimi, Ricsi-viragosi, ABoogieYesSir, The real cal howard, Enryu The Red Tower, Calaca Vs, ShadowWarrior1999, Eganergo, TacticalNuke002)
Zen'o:
Inconclusive:1 (DragonEmperor23)
Yuki Nagato: 9 (Yakushimi, Ricsi-viragosi, ABoogieYesSir, The real cal howard, Enryu The Red Tower, Calaca Vs, ShadowWarrior1999, Eganergo, TacticalNuke002)
Zen'o:
Inconclusive:1 (DragonEmperor23)
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So that makes it incon then.Ricsi-viragosi said:
Zeno's never fought anyone before. SBA = Standard Battle Assumption. He only has one attack and his battle strategy would be to attack.
Also @Enryu Outhaxes is not a reason for why someone would win.
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Zeno's never fought anyone before. SBA = Standard Battle Assumption. He only has one attack and his battle strategy would be to attack.
No. We have no reason to assume he will erase the timeline before at least seeing what he is fighting.
No. We have no reason to assume he will erase the timeline before at least seeing what he is fighting.
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So that makes it incon then.
Zeno's never fought anyone before. SBA = Standard Battle Assumption. He only has one attack and his battle strategy would be to attack.
Also @Enryu Outhaxes is not a reason for why someone would win.
That one attack which takes more time for him to charge up that it would for Yuki to simply time stop him.
Outhaxing is a reason when the opponent has nothing to counter it.
Zeno's never fought anyone before. SBA = Standard Battle Assumption. He only has one attack and his battle strategy would be to attack.
Also @Enryu Outhaxes is not a reason for why someone would win.
That one attack which takes more time for him to charge up that it would for Yuki to simply time stop him.
Outhaxing is a reason when the opponent has nothing to counter it.
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Whenever Yuki fights, she's bloodlusted by default and takes the best actions possible. She'll Reality warp or time stop at the start of the match. Meanwhile, Zeno needs to raise his arms and victims of his hakai are usually able to get a scream out. Except, Yuki won't waste time screaming and time stop instead or something. Zeno loses 8-9/10 times here.
Whenever Yuki fights, she's bloodlusted by default and takes the best actions possible. She'll Reality warp or time stop at the start of the match. Meanwhile, Zeno needs to raise his arms and victims of his hakai are usually able to get a scream out. Except, Yuki won't waste time screaming and time stop instead or something. Zeno loses 8-9/10 times here.
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that's 50/50
scenario where she warps: Zeno wins
scenario where she time stops: SHe wins
scenario where she warps: Zeno wins
scenario where she time stops: SHe wins
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But Zeno doesn't erase right away.DragonEmperor23 said:
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Zeno has no resistance to reality warping.
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Reality Warping: Nagato can manipulate the properties of the environment, such as when she modified a baseball bat to only hit home runs, modified a baseball's movements, or destroyed a section of fence. Kyon refers to this as "bogus magic". She can modify some of her own properties (such as her weight/mass).
^ this vs erase = incon
^ this vs erase = incon
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Ricsi-viragosi said:
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So she can literally turn Zeno into a egg.
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Yuki still has time stop to take the advantage.
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Yes.ShadowWarrior1999 said:
Don't call stomp, because he could pull of an incon. It's just unlikely with his character
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It's not a stomp, just decisive in Yuki's favor.
If she had passive hax then it would be a stomp.
If she had passive hax then it would be a stomp.
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We had this discussion before, I believe it's a stomp due to personality trait.
If Zen'O, even with supposedly "fair" or "He has a chance of winning" powers, doesn't normally do it fast enough/commonly enough then he has a absolute 0% chance of winning, in which case it'd qualify as a stomp.
If Yuki wins here via always being bloodlusted by default due to her character against a character like Zen'O who jokes around at least a little bit, it's a stomp since Zen'O has flat zero percent chance to win.
It isn't decisive if there's 0%. It's a stomp. Decisive would be "Both opens with this hax normally, but Character A's hax is a little faster so more often than not, Character A would win". However, if character B starts their hax earlier or if Character A is a little slower on the draw, Character B could feasibly win, therefore it's decisive.
Zen'O here wants to see who he's fighting so he isn't even going to erase ASAP. Yuki is flat out naturally bloodlusted and can 1-shot Zen'O whenever she wishes. Zen'O here therefore has 0% chance of winning while Yuki has 100% due to their personalities.
It's like giving a pacifist a Gun, and giving a trained murderer a gun then tell them to kill eachother in a Gladiator Arena. They both have "Equal" abilities, but one is going to stomp the other 100% of the time, period.
If Zen'O, even with supposedly "fair" or "He has a chance of winning" powers, doesn't normally do it fast enough/commonly enough then he has a absolute 0% chance of winning, in which case it'd qualify as a stomp.
If Yuki wins here via always being bloodlusted by default due to her character against a character like Zen'O who jokes around at least a little bit, it's a stomp since Zen'O has flat zero percent chance to win.
It isn't decisive if there's 0%. It's a stomp. Decisive would be "Both opens with this hax normally, but Character A's hax is a little faster so more often than not, Character A would win". However, if character B starts their hax earlier or if Character A is a little slower on the draw, Character B could feasibly win, therefore it's decisive.
Zen'O here wants to see who he's fighting so he isn't even going to erase ASAP. Yuki is flat out naturally bloodlusted and can 1-shot Zen'O whenever she wishes. Zen'O here therefore has 0% chance of winning while Yuki has 100% due to their personalities.
It's like giving a pacifist a Gun, and giving a trained murderer a gun then tell them to kill eachother in a Gladiator Arena. They both have "Equal" abilities, but one is going to stomp the other 100% of the time, period.
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What? No.
How likely he is to do it does not matter. It only matters that he could do it.
How likely he is to do it does not matter. It only matters that he could do it.
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Personality is an exploitable weakness and hence, a loss due to in-character actions is not regarded as a stomp on the site.
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Grace ended anyways.
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