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Yugioh Upgrade Thread Revival
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@Yobo Which spirit world are we talking about @Yobo? (Season 4 and 5D's have two distinct ones)
That said, I don't think either of them had accepted the lore.
That said, I don't think either of them had accepted the lore.
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Its funny to see almoat no one in this thread has seen Yugioh GX at all.
The Spirit world is literally the duel monsters card lore, and Jaden can literally interact and destroy em.
And Yubel Jaden has resistance to mind manipulation on his own. https://youtu.be/YINoSYkQMMc
The Spirit world is literally the duel monsters card lore, and Jaden can literally interact and destroy em.
And Yubel Jaden has resistance to mind manipulation on his own. https://youtu.be/YINoSYkQMMc
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I see, if so, go ahead, what part of the lore was used btw?
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Honest (the card) literally took an human form and started brainwashing his way into existwnce.
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ok, I'm asking lore, not if the monster's spirit became physical and took human form. (Honest doesn't even have a lore I believe and definitely lacks a flavor text)
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Well he does have one in YGO GX.
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https://youtu.be/NIkYWqzthFI
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That's... not the card lore...
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Going "up" explicitly means transcending , We've used it in that sense quite a few times. It's not going to another dimension when they never refer to dimensions in ZEXAL in any other way other than a higher plane of reality . Wording + Intent matters... But i'm not bringing that up again.
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Id like an explanation on how the tier 4 feats havent been implemented already instead.
Then, we can move on to thw tier 3 ones.
Then, we can move on to thw tier 3 ones.
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Because at the very least most of these tier 4 feats are very likely outliers and are being discussed as such.
Matter of fact that reminds me.
@Somebody Data and @Dark649
Any issues with the Great Leviathan tier 4 feat of eating the sun? Would this be legit or do you guys think its also an outlier?
Matter of fact that reminds me.
@Somebody Data and @Dark649
Any issues with the Great Leviathan tier 4 feat of eating the sun? Would this be legit or do you guys think its also an outlier?
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I hope you dont mean the divine serpent of Season 4.
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Well that I included but im going to wait and see what Somebody or Dark have to say about it first.
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And, everything is an outlier to you.
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Well, if its not actually consistent and are just random out of the ordinary feats, yes they'll be outliers.
It's like what I said above. Just because a feat is an actual feat doesnt mean outliers cannot ever apply to them and get thrown out. Otherwise, a lot of characters here would have been given upgrades for a while now.
Like 5-C Roshi, 4-A Kaguya Otsutsuki, or 3-A Kibryverse. The latter of which has a much bigger amount of stuff going for them than Yugioh and is still only an outlier to this day.
It's like what I said above. Just because a feat is an actual feat doesnt mean outliers cannot ever apply to them and get thrown out. Otherwise, a lot of characters here would have been given upgrades for a while now.
Like 5-C Roshi, 4-A Kaguya Otsutsuki, or 3-A Kibryverse. The latter of which has a much bigger amount of stuff going for them than Yugioh and is still only an outlier to this day.
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You know, it is funny you consider all of the feats above tier 5 to be random out of the ordinary.
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Because maybe they actually are out of the ordinary? That the feats being mentioned are very inconsistent with ratings from much stronger characters, dont fit at all, and for some, are just hyperbole?
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Specially when stuff like High 3-A Obelisk is anything but inconsistent.
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High 3-A Obelisk is very very un-supported in itself as I called out above. Regarding the Infinite ATK points not equaling tier 3 power in the slightest.
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Thats funny.
I am quite sure Season 4 and Joey vs Marik had already proven that point, as i have shown earlier in the thread.
Specially since Obelisk's effect has been 100% consistent in the animeverse.
But, you already knew that, didnt you? Or, just pretend not to?
I am quite sure Season 4 and Joey vs Marik had already proven that point, as i have shown earlier in the thread.
Specially since Obelisk's effect has been 100% consistent in the animeverse.
But, you already knew that, didnt you? Or, just pretend not to?
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Requoting what I stated above earlier in the thread about it.ProfessorKukui4Life said:
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Why requote it when it has already been confirmed as such in my previous posts?
Joey vs Marik and season 4 are still going to contradict your headcanon.
Joey vs Marik and season 4 are still going to contradict your headcanon.
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Its not headcanon when the latter have no feats of surviving attacks that are even beyond human tier, let alone tier 3. Thats one of the things that makes this very outliersh for it being incredibly inconsistent.
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Sorry, but ill leave this for now.
These strawmans are legit damaging my health.
See ya tomorrow.
These strawmans are legit damaging my health.
See ya tomorrow.
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That is your choice and that is fine, but if there's no actual counter to these feats being outliers, im not going to agree with them. That is my stance here.
Also, as someone honestly trying to keep things civil from what happened in the last threads, as you should too please, we need to keep the "strawman" and "headcanon" cards out of this discussion. We don't need a repeat of the Bleach revisions and how they went down. We are better than this and im sure this time we can all have a calm, nice civil discussion even if we disagree on stuff.
Also, as someone honestly trying to keep things civil from what happened in the last threads, as you should too please, we need to keep the "strawman" and "headcanon" cards out of this discussion. We don't need a repeat of the Bleach revisions and how they went down. We are better than this and im sure this time we can all have a calm, nice civil discussion even if we disagree on stuff.
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Your stance has been debunked earlier in the thread.
But hey, its your choice to realize that. I cannot force you to, as much as id like to.
But hey, its your choice to realize that. I cannot force you to, as much as id like to.
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It'd be nice if you could quote where the debunks are.
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Easy.
Marik vs Joey and Season 4. Its easy to know this, if you watched Yugioh.
Marik vs Joey and Season 4. Its easy to know this, if you watched Yugioh.
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Seriously this fight between you two has tired me as well.
But alas, i must say i do agree with the upgrades, they seem to have at least some kind of proof behind em.
But alas, i must say i do agree with the upgrades, they seem to have at least some kind of proof behind em.
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Yeah, they would apply to Anime Yugi.
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I already countered this though by saying these 2 are part of the reason for making this an outlier. Plus mentioning the material that was already talked about above isnt debunking the notion of this being an outlier.RapidMotorcycle19 said:
@Yobo
Read my previous reply please. Im being 100% civil here and am trying my best to keep it like that and not have it turn into last time. I disagree with him and his arguments but that doesnt mean im going directly at him. Im not insulting or being snarkish at all.
EDIT: Not to mention, recalling one instance of something that, even if it could, help support a rating for characters, doesn't at all disprove the notion of the rating being an outlier. A verse can have a whole pletora of stuff in their favor and they'll still count as Outliers.
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>Outlier
Throwing that strawman around again.
Kukui, do you have anything of value to add to the discussion or will this just go on and on like last time?
It has already been debunked by the consistency of the feats.
Throwing that strawman around again.
Kukui, do you have anything of value to add to the discussion or will this just go on and on like last time?
It has already been debunked by the consistency of the feats.
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Sometimes things just are outliers. I don't see anything consistent here with what you're trying to push for.
I agree with Kukui.
I agree with Kukui.
