Yogiri tries to kill a lizard

[WeeklyBattles]

Ok? He doesnt have resistance to death hax, so him having dura neg is irrelevant

? Death manip resistance is absolutely listed on 682's profile

 

[Bobsican]

He's talking about 343

 

[WeeklyBattles]

343 isnt in this thread so why would he be talking about 343? Plus his profile is heavily outdated, he does in fact have death hax

 

[Bobsican]

Going by that thread its looking to ban that restriction entirely

From what I remember that's not the case, so I would like if you could ask there over that.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Because 682's immortality comes from 343, if he doesnt resist then the immortality gets bypassed

>death hax resistance

The resistance listed isnt 4-D, and you need resistance to concept manip type 2 as well

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He does resist it

All of 682's resistances are 2-A/Low 1-C with Low 1-A resistances being added in the next revision (And likely 1-A immortality)

So yes

He does in fact resist it

 

[Bobsican]

Low 1-C is still potentially a no in this case, as said before.

The Low 1-A/1-A stuff hasn't been applied yet, so it can also be ignored for now.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Low 1-C is still a no, as said before.

Going by that thread your restriction will be against the rules

Plus his 2-A is still exponentially higher than Yogiri's so it still wouldnt affect him

 

[Bobsican]

Okay, just checked, restricting Possibly/Likely stats/abilities is allowed (And accepted), the current discussion on the thread goes over what should the default option by SBA be.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

>All of 682's resistances are 2-A

The resistance to death hax comes from SCP-1437, which isnt 2-A

>Plus his 2-A is still exponentially higher than Yogiri's so it still wouldnt affect him

Dura neg

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Dura neg means nothing when it cant affect 682

To put it in perspective, Yogiri already lost to the Scarlet King

343 is >>> The Scarlet King

682's immortality and all its resistances are from being directly connected to 343

So no, Yogiri cannot affect 682 with his hax

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

>Dura neg means nothing when it cant affect 682

Why

>To put it in perspective, Yogiri already lost to the Scarlet King

That thread isnt concluded and Yogiri now has acausality

>682's immortality and all its resistances are from being directly connected to 343

Not in the profile, so Im gonna need a proof of that

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Why

Because it cant affect him...? Thats what it means for something to not affect someone?

That thread isnt concluded and Yogiri now has acausality

And the Scarlet King is getting the ability to affect type 5 acausality via his spears as all of the 2-As in the verse will be getting both type 5 and the ability to affect type 5 via affecting each other outside of the Tree of Knowledge

Not in the profile, so Im gonna need a proof of that

It...it is on the profile

 

[Bobsican]

As usual, if it isn't on the profile and is CRT-pending, don't use it as a reasoning for an outcome until it's already in. The match-up can be remade should that turn it outdated.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yet you mad a match using rules that havent been applied and are directly contradictory to what youre claiming they are...

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

>Because it cant affect him...? Thats what it means for something to not affect someone?

Why would not affect him when he doesnt have resistances?

>And the Scarlet King is getting the ability to affect type 5 acausality via his spears as all of the 2-As in the verse will be getting both type 5 and the ability to affect type 5 via affecting each other outside of the Tree of Knowledge

Argue that when the CRT is accepted

>It...it is on the profile

Where

 

[Bobsican]

Yet you mad a match using rules that havent been applied and are directly contradictory to what youre claiming they are...

Well, that was the standard before, so the same would still apply anyways, plus for argument's sake.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Well, that was the standard before, so the same would still apply anyways, plus for argument's sake.

That was never the standard what are you talking about. Even the current rule for SBA proves otherwise:

"Character version: The strongest canon version of a character is used, that we have listed. The strongest version being defined as the one with the highest tier; if there are multiple versions with the same tier, then the most recent version. "

 

[Bobsican]

I meant as in that Possibly/Likely tiers can be manually restricted by the OP without rendering a match-up invalid for indexing.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I meant as in that Possibly/Likely tiers can be manually restricted by the OP without rendering a match-up invalid for indexing.

Show me where that is the listed standard.

 

[Bobsican]

It isn't, hence why it was discussed on that other thread recently in the first place.
It was more of an unwritten standard at the time.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If its not the listed standard why are you arguing that it is and making threads when you know its not allowed?

Its never been an unwrittn standard either.No one has ever done that

 

[Bobsican]

The match can be delayed if you really think that should be concluded first.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Seeing as there is a thread looking to make it a rule to prevent this from being a thing plus both characters going through rvisions yeah this should def be put on hold

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

2-A deathhax has been shown to kill 682 before, so I don't see why it wouldn't work on him here.

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Uh, ID having Durability Negation doesn't mean jack if 682's immortality is above the level of Yogiri's potency. It's Immortality, not durability

Yogiri can't kill 682, this is a stomp unless Yogiri can incap

 

[Rikimarox2]

I don't think 682 can kill Yogiri either due to type 5 acausality.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Uh, ID having Durability Negation doesn't mean jack if 682's immortality is above the level of Yogiri's potency. It's Immortality, not durability

Yogiri can't kill 682, this is a stomp unless Yogiri can incap

You clearly didnt read this thread

The immortality end here is 2-A, so it will work

And 682 cant even affect yogiri

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

You clearly didnt read this thread

I did, or else I wouldn't have commented on the dura neg stuff. Thanks for the accusation, however.

The immortality end here is 2-A, so it will work

Except for how 682's degree of 2-A >>>>> Yogiri's

And 682 cant even affect yogiri

Because?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

>I did, or else I wouldn't have commented on the dura neg stuff. Thanks for the accusation, however.

Then you would know that Bob is using the 2-A end of the immortality

>Except for how 682's degree of 2-A >>>>> Yogiri's

AP matters not when hax is the thing used here

>Because?

Type 5 acausality and abstract

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Then you would know that Bob is using the 2-A end of the immortality

I did know this. But 682's 2-A >>>> Yogiri's, which is why I said that.

AP matters not when hax is the thing here

...what? It's not because of AP. 682's Immortality is on a 2-A source that is >>>> Yogiri's 2-A death potency

Type 5 acausality and abstract

This is incon at best then.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

>...what? It's not because of AP. 682's Immortality is on a 2-A source that is >>>> Yogiri's 2-A death potency

He is 4-D. Yogiri can kill 4-Ds. Thats how it is. If he was 5-D, sure, but its not the case here. Otherwise, he can only get away with resistances, which he lacks here

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

That's not how it works at all

I'm sick of repeating myself, but 682's degree of 2-A >>>>> that of Yogiri's. Unless Yogiri can effect someone one this level, then no, he's not doing anything to SCP-682

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

You are either 4-D or 5-D. There is no thing like "4-D+" or "A 4-D degree beyond normal 4-D", its either one or the other, no middle term

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

I know this. It's not about dimensionality, it's about potency (Not AP, but potency in general).

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Im extremely confused right now. The potency is measured by either AP or dimensionality

 

[Bobsican]

Just explain how exactly 682 is "beyond" Yogiri.

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

It can be measured by hax, immortality, etc.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Thats just well, hax (which can be dealt with resistances if the dimensionality is the same [which is here]). Same thing with immortality as long as you have ways to negate it

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Is it me or the fact that Yogiri's profile says he can negate all immoralities is very sus?