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Yhwach VS Misogi Kumagawa
- Fight Location: Soul Society
- Starting Distance: 50m
- Both in-character
- Equalized speed
- Base Yhwach | End of Series Misogi
- Soul Crush restricted
Misogi:
Inconclusive:
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He'd be stuck in a death loopKumagawa comes back because All-Fiction reverses his death. He the All-Fictions' soul crush, then All-Fictions' Yhwach.
What's to say that Yhwach doesn't just absorb him after the initial soul crush?He doesn't even need to come back within range of Yhwach. He just spawns somewhere else and then nulls him from there.
Where did All-Fiction saved him from having his soul destroyed? Also, Yhwach already resist Conceptual ManipulationKumagawa comes back because All-Fiction reverses his death. He the All-Fictions' soul crush, then All-Fictions' Yhwach.
Is his Causality Manipulation 3-D?So, Misogi has Causality Manipulation (Can erase causes and effects with All Fiction, removed the effects of Zenkichi's kicks and erased all damage received
but Yhwach also resist that.
Well, his profile only has All Fiction with Universal range, and not Universal+, so, I guess?Is his Causality Manipulation 3-D?
It isIs his Causality Manipulation 3-D?
In that case yeah, Yhwach can either null it or resist it outrightIt is
It's all fiction, book maker and subjective realityAlso again, Almighty has directly been shown destroying stuff across all timelines, negating Inoue's own Causality Manipulation/Existence Erasure/Rejection. Can Kumagawa resist that?
Again, Yhwach resists CM powernull by Ichibe, which brought him down to an ants levelIt's all fiction, book maker and subjective reality
I actually don't see yhwach winning this
And kumagawa can bring any opponent down to his level.
And reatsu crush would only work.once afterwards it is just kumagawa cause and effect and subjective reality
Proof of Kumagawa bringing a infinitely higher AP (Low 2-C) to his level?I actually don't see yhwach winning this
And kumagawa can bring any opponent down to his level.
Oh, yeah, that's true, the scan is also in his profileAgain, Yhwach resists CM powernull by Ichibe, which brought him down to an ants level
Proof of Kumagawa bringing a infinitely higher AP (Low 2-C) to his level?
There is something called Durability negationThat's true as well
You need to prove Misogi can lower infinite power
Ichibei can use EE like all fiction and power null like book maker,and Yhwach negated both,and Kumagawa's subjective reality is most likely useless here since iirc he just summoned a sword lolIt's all fiction, book maker and subjective reality
I actually don't see yhwach winning this
And kumagawa can bring any opponent down to his level.
And reatsu crush would only work.once afterwards it is just kumagawa cause and effect and subjective reality
Which Yhwach can negate (See Inoue)It's all fiction,
Which Yhwach can negate (See Ichibe)book maker
which Yhwach can negate (again see Ichibe)and subjective reality
why?And reatsu crush would only work.once
You misunderstoodThere is something called Durability negation
It's both 3D hax, but Yhwach can still negate it because he restored himself after being brought down to like Tier 11You misunderstood
They're arguing Misogi can lower Yhwach's AP from Low 2-C to 8-B
It's a NLF to assume Misogi can lower infinite AP without feats
10-C, Ants are 10-CIt's both 3D hax, but Yhwach can still negate it because he restored himself after being brought down to like Tier 11
Sorry didn't know that lol10-C, Ants are 10-C
Also, apparently All Fiction has no feats of bringing Misogi back from soul destructionThat said, what's stopping Yhwach from absorbing him? Even All Fiction wouldn't bring him back if he wasn't killed yeah?
Not sure, it says Misogi resists "Power Erasure", not sure what that meansCan't Yhwach just steal All Fiction power from Misogi?
Yhwach's power absorption seems to be based on the soul, and Kumagawa doesn't resist soul hax.Not sure, it says Misogi resists "Power Erasure", not sure what that means
But Yhwach does have Sankt Altar which can take powers, he even directly absorbed Ichigo's powers towards the end iirc.
That was because Soul King resists Causality Manip even in death because Ichigo killed the SK not Yhwach.Actually if Orihime couldn't bring back the Soul King via causality manip then Misogi can't return as well,since his regen is also causality based