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Aizen could still regen after Yhwach tore him apart, so he should've had Causality Manipulation Negation in the first place already...
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Yhwach VS Misogi Kumagawa
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I'm pretty sure that's not how it works either he resist sealing or either his powers get sealed
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What?
They're arguing that Misogi's 3-D ability can null Yhwach's 4-D AP without feats
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What do you mean by what? I said either he resist sealing or either his powers get sealed everything I said is clear
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Because it's NLF to assume Kumagawa can seal 4-D power without feat
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Wouldn't hax still work if the character is 3D?
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The wiki does accept my logic, 3-D powernull can't nullify a 4-D ability without feats, no reason it's different for 4-D AP
Regardless, we've already clarified that Yhwach resists statistics reduction, on a conceptual level no less.
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Yes,it still works on 3-D characters but it can't stop 4-D AP
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Yhwach can casually resist an AP drop to 10-C, Book Maker won't work even if it could affect 4D stuff.
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Not how it works, depend of how the hax works, AP reduction works by lowering someone AP, how do you even Lower a Infinitely higher AP without feats? Even if u try to lower it INFINITE TIMES, a 4-D AP still will remain as 4-D, same as 3-D AP will remains as 3-D doesnt matter how much u lower it AP
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Never mind still a stomp though Misogi can't do anything
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And I honestly don't why is this even a debate doesn't Yhwach have Passive powernull?
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Yes, the powernull is tied to his precog, which is passive.
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Yhwach calls Misogi a petulant little schoolboy and stomps, please close this.
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@Bernkastelll @Purgy So you guys mean that even if Ywach still 3-D in existance, his raw energy/AP is for 4-D, and that trying to reduce his statistics is like trying to reduce the statistics of a 4-D being, right??
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Yhwach's dimensionality doesn't matter, since it's not Yhwach being reduced, it's his power
Misogi has no feats of lowering 4-D power, and even if he did, Yhwach still resists conceptual statistics reduction due to Ichibe.
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Yhwach resists much more potent statistics reduction quite casually anyways, why is this being argued again?
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Yhwach has a 3-D existence, but his Power is 4-D, which Misogi has no feat of lowering something in that level, and even if he had, Yhwach also can resist conceptuall power null/statistic reduction from Ichibei, which tried to turn Yhwach power into the same power of an Ant
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Actually even Ichigo would stomp tbh
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Ah I see, but I'm sure that the majority of Hax even if it's 3-D, should work on the opponent even if It has 4-D power, as long as it's existance is not HD. Like Mindhax, Soul manipulation, CM, Reality warping, Transmutation, Matter Hax, corruption, etc....... and this is something accepted in the wiki
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Bruv Yhwach resists causality manipulation and statistics reduction of a much higher degree in the story itself. It has nothing to do with him being 4D or this wiki's conventions. It is just the icing on a very large and angry looking cake (with mutton chops made of frosting).
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Yes, 3-D hax works as long as they're not HDE
However, in this instance, Misogi is specifically targeting that 4-D power with a 3-D ability, which he needs feats to do.
It's not a matter of the ability working on Yhwach, it's a matter of Misogi having zero feats to say he can reduce infinite power.
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As I already said, how can you lower something infinitely higher? in the same way that doesnt matter how much u try, u can't lower a 3-D AP in a point that it reaches 2-D AP, not without feat, same applies to this case, Yhwach has a 4-D AP, which Misogi can't lower it to a infinitely lower one, aka 3-D, it will always be a 4-D AP doesnt matter how much misogi tries to lower it
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Yhwach does not have 4D AP tho
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Low 2-C is by its very definition 4-D.
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Tier: High 6-A | At least 3-B | At least 3-B | At least 3-A, possibly Low 2-C
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Low 2-C is 4-D AP
To add, even if Yhwach becomes High 3-A, the point still stands, Misogi has no feats of reducing infinite power.
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Yeah, only if they're directly manipulating the opponents power, not the opponent themself.
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Yes that he has on his profile without any valid justification and just "possibly"
Proof of the low 2C AP?
I am.not saying yhwach does not have "possibly low 2C" on his profile, I am saying that has no reason to be there
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Okay, but even if we ignore this wiki's conventions entirely Yhwach casually resists statistics reduction of a much higher degree, and causality manipulation much more potent in the verse he is in, directly.
Anyone not convinced of his 4D AP can make a CRT but Yhwach has solid feats of resisting everything Kumagawa can do regardless of dimensionality.
This is a stomp, please close this.
Anyone not convinced of his 4D AP can make a CRT but Yhwach has solid feats of resisting everything Kumagawa can do regardless of dimensionality.
This is a stomp, please close this.
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Ah I see, thanks, I was confused af lol
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This sounds like something for a Content Revision Thread.
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