Yhwach vs Griffith (Femto)

[M11UTD]

because he doesn't know about Yhwach's powers, Yhwach sees the future and knows about Griffith abilities first

 

[OIYIG]

Then again Griffith can simply imagine that he knows all about Yhwach.

 

[M11UTD]

did he ever used the reality warping that way ? if not then no he can't, and Almighty is still more casual and will choose future where Griffith's abilities won't work on him.

 

[OIYIG]

Why wouldnt he be able to he just needs to make a simple thought of it. Also its like saying Yhwach cannot use the other sternritter abillities because he was never shown of using them + I dont understand how you would make reality warping not work on you unless you are immune to it which is not the case since it was never stated in the manga.

 

[FateAlbane]

So, OIYIG, still going for Griffith or Inconclusive as well?

 

[The4Godlike]

Then how about this, why couldnt Yhwach see the arrow that Ishida shot in the future?

I think it is because of Haschwalth showed him the future he altered as a dream.Remember Haschwalth has Almighty also and Yhwach said these.

Here the link of it.

http://www.***********.net/bleach/684/16

And if i remember correctly , Griffith's Reality Warping doesn't work like Gremmy's.So he can't imagine anything.

 

[OIYIG]

Yeah I change my vote into inconclusive.

 

[OIYIG]

Then how about this, why couldnt Yhwach see the arrow that Ishida shot in the future?

I think it is because of Haschwalth showed him the future he altered as a dream.Remember Haschwalth has Almighty also and Yhwach said these.
Here the link of it.

http://www.***********.net/bleach/684/16

And if i remember correctly , Griffith's Reality Warping doesn't work like Gremmy's.So he can't imagine anything.

Eh, stil doesnt make sense since Yhwach should've been still able to seen it coming after he woke up, because he can see all futures as he clearly stated in the manga.

 

[Sotomaru]

No, griffith's reality warping wont be able to take yhwach's almighty out when the almighty is activated he would be able to see griffith trying to remove it & alter the future so it doesnt happen. nor would going back in time & killing him as a child reason: yhwach can see himself disappearing from the future & yet again alter so it doesnt affect him.

 

[FateAlbane]

Inconclusive: Sotomaru, EliminatorVenom, The4Godlike, SeriousDude, HokageMangaVox, Yojimbo1989, KillitwithC4, OIYIG (8)

Yhwach: M11UTD (1)

Griffith: 0

I'll see with a mod if we should wait for more input or just close and add it to their profiles.

 

[OIYIG]

No, griffith's reality warping wont be able to take yhwach's almighty out when the almighty is activated he would be able to see griffith trying to remove it & alter the future so it doesnt happen. nor would going back in time & killing him as a child reason: yhwach can see himself disappearing from the future & yet again alter so it doesnt affect him.

Well that makes sense then.

 

[M11UTD]

it won't work because Yhwach can counter it and choose a future where he survives the reality warp, he'll know everything about Griffith attacks via the Almighty while Griffith gets killed through the future without knowing what happened.

 

[The4Godlike]

Eh, stil doesnt make sense since Yhwach should've been still able to seen it coming after he woke up, because he can see all futures as he clearly stated in the manga.

Maybe Haschwalth changed the future so Yhwach couldn't see it.

Or maybe because of KUBO.

 

[Sotomaru]

Eh, stil doesnt make sense since Yhwach should've been still able to seen it coming after he woke up, because he can see all futures as he clearly stated in the manga.

Maybe Haschwalth changed the future so Yhwach couldn't see it.
Or maybe because of KUBO.

what haschwalth showed yhwach was his future but yhwach thought that it was a dream at the end ge realized that it wasn't just a dream that haschwalth showed him.

 

[Lord_Hades_Prince_Of_Darkness]

Broken vs broken. Griffth could reality warp Yhwach but then Yhwach would undo it. But Griffth could make the probability of Yhwach stopping his reality very low. But Yhwach might know that may happen. If Griffth knew everything about Yhwach before coming into the battle then I can see him having a better chance of winning. It will be like counter after counter.

 

[Lord_Hades_Prince_Of_Darkness]

From what we know we do not know how many futures Yhwach can see into all at once. Whether it's infinite, nigh infinite or just a lot in general. We also do not know to what extent he can see in the future. If Yhwach can see infinite possibilities then this fight is over despite Griffth's reality warping, space, or causality manipulation etc. It all depends. But then it could be a no limits fallacy.

 

[FateAlbane]

Inconclusive: Sotomaru, EliminatorVenom, The4Godlike, SeriousDude, HokageMangaVox, Yojimbo1989, KillitwithC4, OIYIG, Uchihazinon (9)

Yhwach: M11UTD (1)

Griffith: 0

 

[The4Godlike]

From what we know we do not know how many futures Yhwach can see into all at once. Whether it's infinite, nigh infinite or just a lot in general. We also do not know to what extent he can see in the future. If Yhwach can see infinite possibilities then this fight is over despite Griffth's reality warping, space, or causality manipulation etc. It all depends. But then it could be a no limits fallacy.

Yhwach said he can foresee every possible future.

 

[LordAizenSama]

May aswell just request this for inconclusive. never seen a match with that many for it.

 

[Sotomaru]

May aswell just request this for inconclusive. never seen a match with that many for it.

You should add that this is without the sternritters abilities.

if you weren't going to do that already that it.

 

[FateAlbane]

May aswell just request this for inconclusive. never seen a match with that many for it.

Requested it. Was waiting for a little more input just to make sure.