Godhands Island level Upgrade (Berserk)

[ElJoaki5]

This should be quite straightforward, with this calc the Godhands and the Idea of Evil get upgraded to Island level in AP.

They scale, as Griffith is the absolute and superior to everyone on the physical word.
Additionally, Griffith destroyed the island of Elfhelm in which this and other mages resided without opposition and this is how the ruler of Elfhelm reacts to his mere presence, she later decided to leave the physical world.

Agree:
Disagree: @Damage3245

 

[Random-Helper323]

Seems straightforward.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

This looks fine to me. Griffith is the supreme being on the physical plane and should easily have abilities far beyond the likes of Ganishka and this mage.

 

[Damage3245]

I have an issue with the calc.

Mechanically speaking, what the calc posits is that the entire 5421709342093 kilogram mass of the air where the clouds are (the mass of the air + water moisture in a cylindrical volume 20 km in radius and 8 km tall) was all concentrated in a single point which then omnidirectionally spread out in a single second...

Where does the scans show any of this happening? Why would the storm all be spreading outward from a single point as opposed to the clouds just forming where they are? Why is it assumed that a vast quantity of air moved anywhere?

 

[ElJoaki5]

I have an issue with the calc.

Mechanically speaking, what the calc posits is that the entire 5421709342093 kilogram mass of the air where the clouds are (the mass of the air + water moisture in a cylindrical volume 20 km in radius and 8 km tall) was all concentrated in a single point which then omnidirectionally spread out in a single second...

Where does the scans show any of this happening? Why would the storm all be spreading outward from a single point as opposed to the clouds just forming where they are? Why is it assumed that a vast quantity of air moved anywhere?

The clouds spread in, not out.
"For pulling in clouds omnidirectional towards a center point, or dispersing them from a center point, the formula "kinetic energy = 1/12 * cloud mass * (Speed of cloud movement)2" can be used"

 

[SamanPatou]

I'm unsure because this spell is a specific manipulation of the weather through magic, so it wouldn't authomatically be considered ap even for the mages of the island, and it doesn't mean the same force would equally translate to other spells.

Even assuming Griffith is able to replicate the same spell or command the same forces, it would also be a separate form of AP through weather manipulation.

 

[Xaropadob3ta]

Should we really use the 20 kilometer radius? Here apparently the storm did not cover the entire horizon.

 

[ElJoaki5]

From the side the mage comes it covers the entire horizon, maybe it isn’t an omnidirectional pull but instead comes from the same side the mage comes from. That would make it stronger tho.

Should we really use the 20 kilometer radius? Here apparently the storm did not cover the entire horizon.

 

[Xaropadob3ta]

From the side the mage comes it covers the entire horizon, maybe it isn’t an omnidirectional pull but instead comes from the same side the mage comes from. That would make it stronger tho.

Behind him were hills that prevented him from seeing the horizon completely.
But I agree with the topic.

 

[Damage3245]

The clouds spread in, not out.
"For pulling in clouds omnidirectional towards a center point, or dispersing them from a center point, the formula "kinetic energy = 1/12 * cloud mass * (Speed of cloud movement)2" can be used"

And where is the proof that the clouds were moved inwards towards a central point?

 

[ElJoaki5]

And where is the proof that the clouds were moved inwards towards a central point?

Should i change the calc assuming the clouds come from the side of the old mage? Looking back at the chapter I noticed the clouds appear earlier from that side, so it isnt just one second either.

 

[Random-Helper323]

The updated 15 seconds is a lot more reasonable than the assumed one second. I should have checked that before commenting. Feats like this have existed here before, where a storm and its clouds have rolled in quickly and made for a kinetic energy feat.

 

[ElJoaki5]

Bump

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Is there any chance that we can scale Elfhiem breaking to Griffith?

 

[ElJoaki5]

Is there any chance that we can scale Elfhiem breaking to Griffith?

I already got a calc on that but that’s for a different time
Bump

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Math seems straightforward. So, I agree. Hopefully we can get God Hand 4D-5D.

 

[ElJoaki5]

bump

 

[Random-Helper323]

There is precedent for using feats like this. Just message a hard working staff member like DarkDragonMedeus or Spinosaurus.

Also, was the eclipse that was part of Femto's ritual a natural occurrence?

 

[ElJoaki5]

There is precedent for using feats like this. Just message a hard working staff member like DarkDragonMedeus or Spinosaurus.

Also, was the eclipse that was part of Femto's ritual a natural occurrence?

Ok, the eclipse is already calced and accepted in the idea of evil page

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

IIRC, I do not think Berserk uses a qualified UES or even similar sub types of those. I am alright with the calculation being used for Environmental Destruction ratings, but I would advise not to scale it to anyone's physical stats.

 

[ElJoaki5]

IIRC, I do not think Berserk uses a qualified UES or even similar sub types of those. I am alright with the calculation being used for Environmental Destruction ratings, but I would advise not to scale it to anyone's physical stats.

Looking at Griffith's page he scales to Ganishka’s storm AP without it being listed as environmental destruction. Although with the state of the pages this could be an error.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

IIRC, I do not think Berserk uses a qualified UES or even similar sub types of those. I am alright with the calculation being used for Environmental Destruction ratings, but I would advise not to scale it to anyone's physical stats.

Berserk does have a magic system. Somehow nobody has made a page for it

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Berserk does have a magic system. Somehow nobody has made a page for it

A Magic system yes, but it is desired if the magic system has proof of being Universal as opposed to Non-Physical and/or Limited.

 

[Arkenis]

this is how the ruler of Elfhelm reacts to his mere presence,

not popping up.

Griffith destroyed the island of Elfhelm

Why isn't this calced?

 

[Arkenis]

I already got a calc on that but that’s for a different time
Bump

That's probably what you should be using to scale here instead.

 

[Arkenis]

Why is this already on page?

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Why is this already on page?

What are you talking about?

 

[Arkenis]

What are you talking about?

The calcs already on Griffith’s page and he’s scaling to it. Though I guess this crt will probably end with it removed

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

The calcs already on Griffith’s page and he’s scaling to it. Though I guess this crt will probably end with it removed

I think that is vandalism.

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Can't 6-C of Environmental Destruction be added?