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who will win the battle of the cosmic powerhouses?
MY money is on LT, what is your take on this?
MY money is on LT, what is your take on this?
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YHVH (SMT) VS The Living Tribunal (Marvel)
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tally so far
LT : 2
YHVH : 0
LT : 2
YHVH : 0
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The Living Tribunal but SMT characters are very hard to place as all rely on powerscaling off each other
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so, LT: 4
YHVH : 0
YHVH : 0
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so, should I add YHVH to LT's victories?
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alright, lets keep it going untill we can get to a complete decision then
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YHVH stomps. Even Kagutsuchi would beat LT. How? Simple. Both are the embodiments of their respective multiverses. However, when LT died, everything was still whole and dandy. When Kagutsuchi died, all of creation collapsed. This included the Amala multiverse and all other realms. Lucifer himself stated that time had died and creation was no longer possible. Basically the multiverse wasn't powered by LT, while Kagutsuchi completely transcended the multiverse, and his death caused all of creation to collapse.
YHVH is even stronger than that.
YHVH is even stronger than that.
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Wasn't Kagutsuchi only the embodiment of a few million (or was it billion?) regular 4-dimensional universes, whereas the Living Tribunal was the embodiment of an at least 16-dimensional multiverse, at least 11 degrees of infinity above that scale. All multiverses are definitely not equal. The Marvel Multiverse is in fact dying, and very little remains, but the rotting corpse can still have bacteria living inside of it after the consciousness has left the body.
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No the Amala multiverse consisted of infinite universes. Kagutsuchi just destroyed and created billions of universes every moment.
The Marvel multiverse is only 5 dimensional. LT exists as a 16 dimensional being, but the multiverse itself is only 5 dimensional. That's how LT is able to hold the multiverse in his hand in the first place.
The Marvel multiverse is only 5 dimensional. LT exists as a 16 dimensional being, but the multiverse itself is only 5 dimensional. That's how LT is able to hold the multiverse in his hand in the first place.
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The LT has never held the multiverse within its hand. It held two cosmic brothers who were stated as powerful enough to vaporise galaxies. That's it. However, if you check out the gallery on the LT's profile page, you will notice that there are described many higher-dimensional states of the Marvel multiverse, and that the LT manifests within all of them. The 5-dimensional multiverse level is just the one inhabited by and accessible to regular 3-dimensional human beings.
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I'm not too sure on Kagutsuchi, but YHVH is beyond the concept of spatial dimensions completely. When Kagutsuchi was killed, everything was erased from existence. Time, space, creation, spatial dimensions, and everything was completely erased. Lucifer's army, Demi-Fiend, and YHVH were literally in a state of non existence. Beyond multiverses, dimensions, and everything, they were outside of everything.
Isn't that a 1-A category?
Isn't that a 1-A category?
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No. Being outside of a certain multiversal spacetime is not remotely the same as 1-A as far as I am aware, especially not if it is 5-dimensional spacetime. You can ask DarkLK about it however. In addition, you will have to give serious proof of Kagutsuchi being remotely that high. All that we currently have proof of is that most of the characters are higher than an at least 5-dimensional hypercube.
