Yggdrasil vs Sailor Moon REDUX

[Dragonmasterxyz]

The old match is horribly outdated.

Digimon vs Sailor Moon

The Tree Queen vs The Moon Queen

-SBA

-Summoning Ogudomon or any SGDL is restricted. So is Alphamon, and N.E.O. Everything else is fine.

-This is Savers Yggdrasil vs Neo Queen Serenity

-Battle Takes Place at the Leaf Village (Poor them)

FIGHT!!!

Yggdrasil (Digimon): 7 (Gar, Blue, PaChi, Lancer, Phoenix, Duh, Tman)

Sailor Moon (Character): 0

Inconclusive: 2 (Glass, Ian)


Not the right Ygg, but more fitting.

 

[Executor_N0]

You did this after seeing the last combat addition on the page and see that old result was still on the page, is not it? I thought the same OvO

 

[Schnee_One]

I will say this

I do not believe Moon is actually capable of Killing Yggdrasil still.

And I do believe Yggdrasil has a higher chance of sealing due to it's DAMN good Precog

Ygg for now.

Also, I know its the wrong key but the Norn image is better.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

You did this after seeing the last combat addition on the page and see that old result was still on the page, is not it? I thought the same OvO

You are 100% correct. OvO

 

[Theglassman12]

Inconclusive since it could go either way.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yggdrasil has about a 60/40 chance of sealing first

 

[LordGinSama]

Doesn't Moon have more losses than Goku at this point?


this clearly means Goku is stronger :^)

 

[Theglassman12]

@knight you forget that she has no wins, therefore she loses to Goku. OvO

 

[Schnee_One]

Doesn't Moon have more losses than Goku at this point?

this clearly means Goku is stronger :^)

The Beast concedes with this logic

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So we got a vote for Ygg and one for Inconclusive correct? Or has Glass changed his mind? What about you Knight?

 

[Executor_N0]

I would say Yggdrasil, but I think it deserves a explanatory text. Tomorrow I will do when I have time, prepare yourselfs OvO

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Oh boy...wall of text time. ovo

 

[Schnee_One]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH

 

[LordGinSama]

Imma wait for PaChi to comment here before I vote. I haven't really seen any good reasons here other than "Sealing and precog GG."

 

[Schnee_One]

That is a perfectly good reason tho

Also is Yggdrasil the strongest 2C and 2A? Since he can summon almost any digimon including the SDGL and Ogudomon?

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Inconclusive. Not much has changed. They can't put either permanently down and have the same resitences and abilities.

 

[Schnee_One]

I will say this again.

Ygdrasil's chances of sealing are significantly higher due to precog, which might I add, predicted the entire story up until his own demise, and only lost because it let it happen

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

A lots more changed than you think. I'll wait for Ex and PaChi to post, but I should let you know that Ygg can summon the highly underrated Tactimo and Crusadermo who has Clockmon's Time Powers, who Time Stopped an Immeasurable Low 1-C. You may still vote Inconclusive, but more things have changed than you think.

 

[Schnee_One]

Also is Yggdrasil the strongest 2C and 2A? Since he can summon almost any digimon including the SDGL and Ogudomon?

Oh and yeah, Time Stopping makes the sealing easier

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

@Gar

Read the OP.

 

[Schnee_One]

I think you misunderstood me.

I'm curiously asking if he is, not saying he'll use them in this fight

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

I mean, scaling from Nehellenia who was still able to attack and influence the world while simultaenously being sealed to the mirror permanentyl, Yggdrasil can seal Neo Quee nSerenity and she'd still be able to use her powers.

Not to mention, Super Sailor Moon, was sealed inside her own attack (dont' ask me on the physics lol) and was still able to break out of it.

As for the time thing, Queen Serenity with the lambda power should exist outside of time and space and be unaffected by such machinations.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I don't really know how far Ygg is as a 2-C since she hasn't really gone all out as a 2-C. All the times she lost, she allowed it to happen. But yes, she can in fact summon them. Whether she is stronger than them or can just mind control beings far above her is unknown. Ex will likely tell me. Ygg is likely the hardest 2-C to put down though.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I mean, scaling from Nehellenia who was still able to attack and influence the world while simultaenously being sealed to the mirror permanentyl, Yggdrasil can seal Neo Quee nSerenity and she'd still be able to use her powers.
Not to mention, Super Sailor Moon, was sealed inside her own attack (dont' ask me on the physics lol) and was still able to break out of it.

As for the time thing, Queen Serenity with the lambda power should exist outside of time and space and be unaffected by such machinations.

Need I mention Ygg's sealing is High 2-A in potency as it sealed these two who are literally created to kill True Yggdrasil?

 

[Schnee_One]

<She

Well if it can summon all this shit she probably is, seriously, against any individual Digimon she just summons effectively the entire Digimon world.

 

[Schnee_One]

As for the time thing, Queen Serenity with the lambda power should exist outside of time and space and be unaffected by such machinations.

Dragon just said they affected a Low 1C Immesurable tho

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

@Dragon

Going by their abilties and powers page, I'm not suprsied they were sealed by her. Being a higher tier doesn't automatically mean you won't get sealed or be affected by another hax.

And my main point was that even if NQS gets sealed, there is precident where being sealed doesn't mean you're incapcitated. Hence why I voted inconclusive.

@Gargoyle

I saw what he said but to me that just means that specific Low 1C is vulnerable to time hax. Why would NQS resistences and immunites be null and voided becasue a third party that's unrelated to her was affected.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

That's not how that works. Your sealing is indeed measured by the strongest being you can seal. It simply means Ygg's sealing is extremely potent.

Not that's also not how it works. It simply means the Time Hax is just that potent. It's an upgrade to the hax, not a weakness to a character. So sorry, that logic will not fly.

 

[Schnee_One]

Iam, I told you this on Athena vs SM and I will repeat it here,

If it is shown to work, it will work if the character has no resistance to it.

Pontos can manipulate the fate of acasuals, Athena can probability manipulate Acasuals, Dialga and the others mentioned above can time stop immesurables.

Her being outside of Spece Time isnt helpful.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

But NQS has resistence to both. The silver crystal autos undos timestops plus being outside of time and space. And ressitence to sealing and being able to keep fighting while being simultaensouly being sealed. Which is why, I'm not really buying the "they worked on (isnert tier) characters" arguments.

Have those characters shown resistence before? The two Dragon listed has no resistences to sealing from what I garner from their pages. So I don't really see that as a viable argument. "this hax will work on this character that has resistence to said hax because it worked on these characters who may not have shown resistence to said hax".

Pontos manipulating the fate of acausals, is do to Pontos's level fo hax. Not because he's 2-B. And Athena probability manipualting Acasuals is because that's the level of hax not because she's 2-C. (and in that thread my arguement wasn't only because SM was acausal but becasue she had resistence to the ability as well)

anyways, I don't want to create a back and forth. I still vote inconclusive because both characters have work arounds to each others abilities and I feel like this will be an eternal game of cat and mouse.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Plus being outside of time and space

Again that's worthless to those who can time stop immesurables, you're missing my point.

You're using SM having been outside of Space and time as a reason for why she can resist that type of stop.

Yes, Pontos and Athena did that because of their level of hax, same with the above, thus, Ygg can time stop SM. Who has no resistance to time stop anywhere near that powerful

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So apparently Time Stopping a Low 1-C Immeasurable. who is naturally immune to Temporal Powers is not how strong the Time hax is.

Sealing a 5-Dimensional Being is not strong sealing for a 4-Dimensional avatar to have. Whether you buy it or not that's how it works. If she has not resisted sealing of that level she will not resist it. End of story.

"Have they shown resistance before?"

No. They don't need to. Any sealing far below their level of power is irrelevant. Immeasurables naturally are immune to Time based powers unless feats are shown that bypasses that. But no matter how horrible your reasoning is, it is legitmate. Counted.

 

[Schnee_One]

Wait.

Thinking this over, can SM seal Ygg?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Yes. Unless that sealing is far below Ygg's level of power.

 

[Schnee_One]

K one last thing.

Can the time stopping Digimons seal/kill her themselves? Does their time stop effect Ygg itself?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Clockmon's Time Erasure has never worked on acausals so no, Crusadermon can't beat her. Crusadermon can choose whether she wants to Freeze the entire area or Moon. And seeing how naturally loyal to Ygg Crusadermon is, she won't risk freezing Ygg.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

If Clockmon's time erasure won't work on acausals why would it ever work on NQS?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Chrono Breaker is both Time Stop and Time Erasure. Crusadermon can choose whichever. Time Stop will still work. Time Erase will. Luckily Ygg will know to tell Crusadermon what to and what not to use.

 

[Schnee_One]

Then yeah, my reasoning needs to be improved juuuust a bit.

Neither can kill the other as they both have excellent survivability and resistances. Especially in the case of Ygg's High Godly, as such they both are forced to seal eachother.

Issue is, SM has zero knowledge on Ygg and that she needs to seal it, Yggdrasil does via it's incredible Precognition, and it's sealing can be made easier to use and apply by seeing that it needs to and summoning the two and make them time stop Moon.

Now aside from Ygg itsef, the other digimon get obliterated by her, and her immediately going with sealing would make this inconclusive. but ultiamtely, with time stop and you know what, Ygg's chances are better.

How's that

 

[Executor_N0]

I don't really know how far Ygg is as a 2-C

I'll give you more details later. But Yggdrasil is strong enough to defeat 4 Burst Modes casually without any effort and a Burst Mode is strong enough to easily defeat Belphemon Rage Mode.