Yet Another Castlevania Thing

[Ultima_Reality]

So:

Belmont Bloodline

The Belmont Clan is the most important and notable group of Vampire Hunters, and the usual main protagonists of the Castlevania Game Series. Armed with the Legendary Vampire Killer Whip and a strong Holy Magic, the Belmonts fought against the creatures of the night since the Eleventh Century...

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Creatures of Chaos (Castlevania)

Creatures of Chaos; or Creatures of the Night, are the main antagonistic forces in the entire Castlevania franchise. While coming in many different shapes and forms, they all exist to answer the call for darkness in the world, whether through the hearts of humanity or from the source they all...

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Dimensional Travel and Immersion (Scales off anyone who's capable of using magic, who can dimension hop into other worlds inside paintings)

Magic, Quantum Manipulation and Spatial Manipulation (Magic in Castlevania is able to warp Quantum Space barriers, which is stated to be a paranormal Phenomena, which makes it common for even creatures of the night)

I believe there is already a thread tackling how much of a mess Quantum Manipulation as a power is in general, so we can ignore that bit. What I want to focus on is the general principle behind giving out the abllity and those associated in the verse. To wit:

Magic user does X
X is described as a paranormal phenomenon
Random monsters are stated to cause paranormal phenomena
Therefore even random monsters can do X

Yeah, I don't believe I need to elaborate much on the massive leap being done here. Just because X is in category Y, and random monsters can do stuff that's also in category Y, doesn't mean random monsters can do X. So, yeah, yeet.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Seems extremely simple and logical, I agree.

 

[Hellscream]

Damn, people are finally tackling all the shit that's wrong with Castlevania.

Either way, agreed

 

[OrangeFR]

Agree

 

[Ultima_Reality]

So:

Belmont Bloodline

The Belmont Clan is the most important and notable group of Vampire Hunters, and the usual main protagonists of the Castlevania Game Series. Armed with the Legendary Vampire Killer Whip and a strong Holy Magic, the Belmonts fought against the creatures of the night since the Eleventh Century...

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Creatures of Chaos (Castlevania)

Creatures of Chaos; or Creatures of the Night, are the main antagonistic forces in the entire Castlevania franchise. While coming in many different shapes and forms, they all exist to answer the call for darkness in the world, whether through the hearts of humanity or from the source they all...

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I believe there is already a thread tackling how much of a mess Quantum Manipulation as a power is in general, so we can ignore that bit. What I want to focus on is the general principle behind giving out the abllity and those associated in the verse. To wit:



Yeah, I don't believe I need to elaborate much on the massive leap being done here. Just because X is in category Y, and random monsters can do stuff that's also in category Y, doesn't mean random monsters can do X. So, yeah, yeet.

Oh, I forgot to mention: For some reason, we treat these abilities as being applicable as methods of offense, hence the Belmonts and every Creature of the Night are currently listed as resisting them by virtue of resisting magic. A quick look at the scans should tell you this stuff really isn't combat-applicable, so, yeah.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Yah this CRT seems good to go

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Opening four threads over small matters instead of one that could tackle all these issues would be faster, easier, and more logical. This issues doesn't even seem that big to begin with, unlike the others. Regardless, I guess it does lack a bit but that's all I could say, I agree.

 

[Eseseso]

Man, you really woke up one day and chose violence against Castlevania, huh?

This seems ok but I'll wait to see what Glass has to say.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

OP makes sense but I'll wait just in case the supporters can provide scans of Creatures of Chaos using Magic, Quantum Manipulation and Spatial Manipulation.

 

[Huesito88]

OP makes sense but I'll wait just in case the supporters can provide scans of Creatures of Chaos using Magic, Quantum Manipulation and Spatial Manipulation.

Quantum Manipulation may be harder due to standards being changed right as we're speaking right now

 

[Robo432343]

Yeah, I don't believe I need to elaborate much on the massive leap being done here. Just because X is in category Y, and random monsters can do stuff that's also in category Y, doesn't mean random monsters can do X. So, yeah, yeet.

if we are using this logic then shouldn't a lot of the abilities in the page be gone?? not just those 5 abilities you pointed out

 

[Theglassman12]

@Ultima_Reality The quantum manipulation thread discussion is mostly just on the redundancy on having Quantum manipulation be a separate page and being so bare bones while we have matter hax side of quantum manipulation be more in depth by comparison.

I’ll respond to the other points soon, got an exam to get ready for.

 

[Quibster]

Quantum Manipulation may be harder due to standards being changed right as we're speaking right now

Chaos Manipulation standards are also being overhauled altogether lol. It's in implementation approval limbo atm.

Edit: CRT looks fine

 

[SuperSonicTL]

Eh? That sounds like a characteristic of magic to have such capabilities. I don't see the issue here, personally speaking. But I'll follow it for now given Glass knows the verse very well soo his words should be taken into consideration before we actually conclude this matter.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Agree with everything.

Quantum Manipulation may be harder due to standards being changed right as we're speaking right now

Quantum Manipulation was approved for getting deleted altogether, it's just that there's only 1 volunteer removing it from pages. The only thing to decide is if QM can be indexed as something else. Otherwise, anyone could delete it whenever they wanted.

 

[Deagonx]

Agreed on Dimensional Travel and Immersion, there's really just no basis for assuming literally anyone can do what Charlotte can do, and even for Charlotte it should be specified that this is a very specific circumstance. The situation with the painting acting as a wall for Dracula's magic doesn't mean Charlotte can just dimensional travel at will or do immersion stuff at will.

Agreed on "Paranormal Phenomenon." The fact that some specific monsters are associated with "Poltergheist Phenomenon" (taking for granted that this is the same thing as 'paranormal' phenomenon) there's no reason to assume that all things that are paranormal can do everything that any other paranormal being can do.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

agree