Yamamoto vs Natsu

[CNBA3]

What is the temperature of Yamamoto's flames?

 

[The_Calaca]

Does it matter? The AP difference is large enough. Read the one-shot chain above.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

What does the temperature matter? Yama doesn't even use his Shikai first, he whacks you with his cane which will one shot Natsu.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

HE could tap Natsu's forehead and he'd fall asleep lol

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Never stated, only time it is, is when he goes Bankai.

And by that point it ain't even flames, just his condensed and super hot energy.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

So, girl is superior to Vasto lorde ichigo? I call no way but whatever. But Shikai would be in range of Natsu's powers

Masked Hiyori is stronger than post Kenpachi Shikai Ichigo. No one said anything about her being better than Zangetsu.

 

[CNBA3]

It does, because it would determine if he can or not, August had a higher AP than Natsu and he managed to survive his flames just fine

Where did Zangetsu come from? I said Vasto Lorde.

 

[The_Calaca]

A stronger Natsu, of course.

 

[CNBA3]

That is Natsu weaker than August, not stronger, still in range of his flames

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

That is Zangetsu, there is no such thing as Vasto Lorde Ichigo.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

August couldn't stomp Natsu as hard as Yama can.

 

[CNBA3]

Vasto Lorde Ichigo is when he fought Ulquiorra in Ressurection Seond form.

That is the common reference

 

[The_Calaca]

Not at the point that August one-shot people who one-shot other people who one-shot Natsu (If I get the scaling correctly).

 

[AnonymousBlank]

What you call Vasto Lorde is only a fraction of Zangetsu. Ichigo's body different pilot.

This is literally the fight.

 

[CNBA3]

So multi city block punch?

Jokes aside, Natsu should be Able to take that.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Again that is Zangetsu's Hollow side, also know as Full Hollow Ichigo.Why is this even relevant actually?

 

[The_Calaca]

Good way to troll, dude.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

That guy right there is the guy I mentioned in the scaling chain. The one who one shots guys one shotting other guys stronger than Natsu.

 

[CNBA3]

I said jokes aside, if his flames are in range then he would be fine, and that is Yamamoto's strongest attribute.

Again that is Zangetsu's Hollow side, also know as Full Hollow Ichigo.Why is this even relevant actually?

Because VL ichigo is the common reference to that form, it is not that hard to understand

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

No, that's a Mountain range punch. Half of Natsu's body would end up atomized, and he doesn't have the Regen to compensate unlike big white boi in the gif.

 

[The_Calaca]

Saitama grows a beard and a moustache and pulverizes Natsu.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Pretty sure Natsu can takes Yamma's flame no problem. He, as 7-A, had took flames from a High 6-C and lives.

This is basically Yamma vs Wonderwisse all over again.

 

[CNBA3]

Natsu has taken punches before, not like they are uncommon, some punches are just hard, that's all

 

[The_Calaca]

Pretty sure Natsu at the end of the manga is 6-C and High 6-C with his powerups.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Yep, he's a troll. Don't mind it and close the thread.

And Homu, just by the AP scaling chain and the fact Yama doesn't default for his Shikai at the first second, Natsu is already getting splattered with no chance for a fire.

 

[CNBA3]

He gains Shikai's AP once he eats it, it would be a more fair fight then and there. He comes out with Shikai right away in most instances, we see him use fists after when Shikai is of no use

 

[The_Calaca]

Yeah, what Lance said. Yama doesn't open with fire, he just punches Natsu and he gets rekt.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Never said he didn't. I still don't understand why he isn't High 7-A now.

Also, pretty sure Yamma blizts.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Doesn't even punch, just opens a hole in him with his Cane and gg.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

He just waves his hand in front of Natsu and he falls asleep lol.

 

[CNBA3]

We see him open up with Shikai right away in most fights, don't see why not in this instance

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Pretty sure Natsu at the end of the manga is 6-C and High 6-C with his powerups.

He's only High 7-A in base

 

[AnonymousBlank]

If we could finally leave Bleach CRT limbo, Yama would be superior to a number of 6-Cs or even High-6Cs depending on what gets changed in one calc.

 

[CNBA3]

Pretty sure that is kido

 

[The_Calaca]

Wasn't FT getting upgraded to 6-C via Ikusa-Tsunagi's storm?

 

[CNBA3]

Apparently no one did since it got regected

 

[AnonymousBlank]

DontTalk swooped in and explained we cant accurately see past a certain distance so the extension to horizon calcs got rejected.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Name how many times he opens up with Shikai agaisnt anyone he doesn't consider a threat or someone to be eliminated right away CNBA, and you may have a point.

Right now, you don't.

 

[CNBA3]

That is what I just said

His students, Hollow chimera, Tres Beasta, Sterritter guys, beginning of fake Katakura invasion, Aizen, etc..

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

His students who he accused of betrayal, the Sternreiter that were part of the elite troop of the Quincy Invading, the Karakura Invasion where he especifically locked Aizen, Gin and Tousen so they wouldn't interfere...

I don't think you understand what "eliminated right away" and "considers a threat" means.