Yajirobe vs Raditz (GRACE) -_-

[Ganasto]

Well his sword can cut great ape vegeta and base vegeta and can cut through his armour which chiaotzu can't so yajirobe one shots lol.

Tail doesnt scale to durability, Vegeta would have just sliced Gohan instead of aiming for tail. Vegeta said he was stupid for not going for Gohan's tail while transforming into an oozaru meaning his regular body was far more durable than his tail. Also I'm voting Raditz for now, I don't think 3x AP advantage will win against Raditz simply flying

 

[Ganasto]

Actually nvm because there's no way for Raditz to know Yajirobe can't fly I don't know if he'll eventually start flying mid-fight

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Tail doesnt scale to durability, Vegeta would have just sliced Gohan instead of aiming for tail. Vegeta said he was stupid for not going for Gohan's tail while transforming into an oozaru meaning his regular body was far more durable than his tail. Also I'm voting Raditz for now, I don't think 3x AP advantage will win against Raditz simply flying

Seems like plot induced stupidity, but I guess you have a point, though he still cut vegeta's armour which scales to nappa's armour which could take attacks from the Z fighters who were stronger than raditz, so yajirobe cuts raditz like butter.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Wait, why we scale Yajirobe's sword to 5-B as if he took hits from Full Power Vegeta?

That fight was after:

1) Goku assaulted him with the kaioken

2) Got injured by Goku's spirit bomb after reverting from his ape form

3) Suffered even more damage afterwards, to the point Vegeta could barely even fight. Yajirobe only survived since Vegeta was weakened by that much

 

[Vizer04]

Seems like plot induced stupidity, but I guess you have a point, though he still cut vegeta's armour which scales to nappa's armour which could take attacks from the Z fighters who were stronger than raditz, so yajirobe cuts raditz like butter.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Wait, why we scale Yajirobe's sword to 5-B as if he took hits from Full Power Vegeta?

That fight was after:

1) Goku assaulted him with the kaioken

2) Got injured by Goku's spirit bomb after reverting from his ape form

3) Suffered even more damage afterwards, to the point Vegeta could barely even fight. Yajirobe only survived since Vegeta was weakened by that much

Like pfizer said, the poit is the armour, not vegeta himself.

 

[Vizer04]

Serious question, could this mean a Yajirobe upgrade???

 

[Ganasto]

Serious question, could this mean a Yajirobe upgrade???

Maybe the slashing through armor thing is an outlier, but I think it scales him above Piccolo no?

 

[Vizer04]

Maybe the slashing through armor thing is an outlier

I mean, he did it twice (slashing Vegeta's tail and his armor)

but I think it scales him above Piccolo no?

Definitely, but you could make the argument that he scales to Nappa's durability (i'm not sure how durable are the Saiyan Armors compared with them tho)

 

[Ganasto]

I mean, he did it twice (slashing Vegeta's tail and his armor)

Definitely, but you could make the argument that he scales to Nappa's durability (i'm not sure how durable are the Saiyan Armors compared with them tho)

Well tail is definitely not an outlier because tail doesn't scale to durability at all, Puar was able to cut off Goku's tail. I just say it might be because it scales him above like Piccolo and everyone else

 

[Nierre]

wow forgot about this.

Well I'll vote for Raditz just due to range and flight

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Raditz FRA for experience, stamina and likely AP as well. Raditz should be more than agile enough to evade his sword and can also fly to go out of range.

And what Yajirobe did to Vegeta doesn't count since Vegeta was barely even standing and grasping for life. He was no where near in a shape to even stand upgright, let alone fight

 

[Vizer04]

Raditz should be more than agile enough to evade his sword and can also fly to go out of range.

He won't do that, Raditz tends to tank the attacks instead of dodging them, that's in character for him. The moment Yajirobe hits him with the sword it's over.

 

[Vizer04]

Yajirobe FRA

 

[Coolboy6]

Raditz FRA
He can fly and basically outranges and also kinda outskills ig.

 

[Vizer04]

He can fly and basically outranges and also kinda outskills ig.

He won't do that, Raditz tends to tank the attacks instead of dodging them, that's in character for him. The moment Yajirobe hits him with the sword it's over.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Raditz would not be stupid enough to let Yajirobe slice him clean off, he'd still dodge the sword.

Besides, even the swords rating is iffy since Vegeta wasn't in a position to stand, let alone fight. Vegeta can one shot Yajirobe many times over but even then he couldn't kill him despite Yajirobe not even surpassing a PL of 1000 according to the guides

So yeah, Yajirobe isn't winning here. At least not without having Raditz be a complete idiot

 

[Vizer04]

Raditz would not be stupid enough to let Yajirobe slice him clean off, he'd still dodge the sword.

Raditz didn't even move to dodge a charged Ki attack, he won't move to dodge a very unthreatening looking sword (not to mention that a sword doesn't have Ki so he won't detect the danger with his scouter). Also, speed is equalized.

Besides, even the swords rating is iffy since Vegeta wasn't in a position to stand, let alone fight. Vegeta can one shot Yajirobe many times over but even then he couldn't kill him despite Yajirobe not even surpassing a PL of 1000 according to the guides

We talked about this and the rating for the sword was accepted.

So yeah, Yajirobe isn't winning here. At least not without having Raditz be a complete idiot

He doesn't need to be an idiot, he just has to be in character.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Raditz didn't even move to dodge a charged Ki attack, he won't move to dodge a very unthreatening looking sword (not to mention that a sword doesn't have Ki so he won't detect the danger with his scouter). Also, speed is equalized.

He would definitely detects Yajirobe's power while swinging it.

We talked about this and the rating for the sword was accepted.

How exactly that was accepted? Vegeta was on the verge of death here and only had a fraction of his power left. Again, in all of the guides Yajirobe's power is 1000 or less, and he survived the same beating from that Vegeta without being too injured.

He doesn't need to be an idiot, he just has to be in character.

He wouldn't deliberately tank a sword slash, especially if he doesn't know how strong it would be

 

[Vizer04]

He would definitely detects Yajirobe's power while swinging it.

You don't know that.

How exactly that was accepted?

You can read the thread, i gave you a link.

He wouldn't deliberately tank a sword slash, especially if he doesn't know how strong it would be

Well, he definitely can try to dodge it but it's unlikely since Yajirobe is an expert swordman.

 

[Coolboy6]

You don't know that.

Mate, you do realize that Raditz has his scouter here so he would read Yajirobe's power level and would obviously take this seriously.

 

[Vizer04]

Mate, you do realize that Raditz has his scouter here so he would read Yajirobe's power level and would obviously take this seriously.

We don't know Yajirobe's power level...

 

[Coolboy6]

We don't know Yajirobe's power level...

Well, he did train with the z fighters before Nappa and Vegeta's arrival so he's probably comparable albeit weaker by not much to the former as he did train with them. Raditz would obviously still take this fight seriously after reading Yajirobe's strength off his scouter.

 

[Vizer04]

I guess you're voting for Raditz then, right?

 

[Coolboy6]

I guess you're voting for Raditz then, right?

I did before...

Raditz FRA

 

[Vizer04]

I did before...

You didn't...

 

[Vizer04]

Raditz FRA
He can fly and basically outranges and also kinda outskills ig.

Oh, you did...

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

Raditz FRA

 

[Peppersalt43]

3 more votes to grace

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Radish FRA

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I saw pretty good arguments for Yajirobe. Why did it change all of sudden when I skipped to the end lol

I agree Raditz wins

paralysis inducements should give Raditz an upper hand

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Bump

 

[Arnoldstone18]

1 more vote for Raditz right?

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Alright I'll vote for Raditz due to his ki manipulation which Yajirobe lacks, his greater maneuverability thanks to his flight, and also Raditz's paralysis inducement.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Yep yep,

GG

 

[CiscoTheSoto]

Also, did speed really need to be equalized for this match? Weren't the speeds of both characters approximately the same?