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Xshia vs The One Above all

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TheDarkSide857 said:
KingPin0422 said:
"Omnipotence" is horseshit for a number of reasons:
  1. Simply being "beyond everything" is highly dependent on a verse's complexity. What I mean is, omnipotence is frequently used in many verses to refer to vastly different things within different sizes, similarly to omnipresence and omniscience. Thus, simply giving one character an advantage over another based on such an arbitrary term is foolish. It's like if I claimed that some character knows absolutely everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen in every verse because "they're omniscient".
  2. Omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence are generally considered to be theological concepts. While the other two are used liberally, omnipotence is too controversial and inspires theological debates (like what happened earlier on in this thread), and that is not what any tiering system should be doing.
  3. Other characters have claimed themselves to be omnipotent, such as Super Buu from Dragon Ball. And don't give me that BS about "they have shown limits to their power". The fact of the matter is that they made those claims. Whether or not they are true is irrelevant.
  4. Many people seem to forget that there are multiple definitions of omnipotence. The one that is typically used in VS debating is known as "illogical omnipotence". But there is also "logical omnipotence", which posits that not even God can violate logical consistency. I linked to a page on VS Battles up above, it goes into detail about the historical nuances of omnipotence.
TL;DR: Instead of giving certain characters inflated ratings simply because of something that is effectively a title, we should gauge their "attack potency" based off of their displayed scope of influence, and try to stay away from arbitration as much as possible.
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Oh noes, the picture is gone! It seems I have to agree with the above uwu
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Fixed that for you owo
 
You know what? I suggest that we take this debate on omnipotence elsewhere, lest we derail this thread even further.
 
KingPin0422 said:
You know what? I suggest that we take this debate on omnipotence elsewhere, lest we derail this thread even further.
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Sounds like a good idea
 
I can already feel the tension building up to Darks response
 
Dude, at least try to feel like you actually care to argue. Don't just pull out bulls**t instantly and go for the win.
 
Christian Higdon said:
Dude, at least try to feel like you actually care to argue. Don't just pull out bulls**t instantly and go for the win.
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But aren't Eldritch Abominations more scary than Bendy?
 
I mean, this is a being that can go through walls, slam people across rooms, corrode others, nearly insta-kill a grown adult, etc. and that's not even him in his beast form.
 
"Why am I still following this?" is a question that I have asked myself all too often lately.
 
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