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who'll win?
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Xshia vs The One Above all
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TOAA is weaker than most 1-As. What can he do in this fight?
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TOAA is T H O T S L A Y E R ' S Weakness so he might do something
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I can see a chance of TOAA winning if that's the case.
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The one above all due to weakness
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My weakness to The-One-Above-All can be subverted by just realising that he's just a guy who is really high up.
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so...T H O T S L A Y E R said:
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He's a massive weakling when it comes to "Tier 0" as he is only above ONE 1-A. Lovecraftian folks would step on him like a bug.
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How does being above only one 1-A make him weaker than a guy who is above several 1-A's, just because one character is above 13 planet busters doesn't automatically mean a guy who only above one planet buster is weaker
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Oblivion is nearly baseline 1-A and TOAA is above him, meanwhile guys like Hypnos is layers and layers of infinitely superior to baseline 1-A and he's a fodder in Mythos.
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I should point out that The Beyonder can be seen as 1-A as well.Seol404 said:
That being said, these characters are quite low on the 1-A food chain; Oblivion embodies an outerversal void (which I don't remember if that puts him above baseline 1-A or not), and The Beyonder can be seen as being superior to him.
Xshia could be above 1-A characters that make these two look insignificant in comparison.
As I see it, TOAA is merely above 2-3 levels of 1-A.
EDIT: Damn it Alex, you ninja'd me.
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Omnipotence is a fancy title given to those at the top of the food chain. In fact. VSBW has been thinking about deleting both Tier 0 and Tier High 1-A due to the requeriments of being those two tiers being unquantifiable and useless in the long term.
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Not at all. The guy who made VS Battles' tiering system has stated himself that tier 0 (and by extension, High 1-A) are relative to the verse.Seol404 said:
EDIT: ****, ninja'd agai.
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The mere fact that multiple Tier 0 characters exist debunks your argument.Seol404 said:
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If you put someone who is Low 2-C in a verse filled with 10-Bs, they would be Omnipotent because they can do virtually anything. TOAA can do virtually anything for low-level 1-A's. Which isn't saying much when you compare it to, say, Umineko or I/O. Omnipotence cannot be proven logically. The "ability to do everything" depends on the "amount of things" inside a verse. In fact, a paradox similar to "make a rock so heavy one can't lift" in the "ability to do anything" would include the "ability to NOT be Omnipotent", which is a logical contradiction. This is what paraconsistent logic talks about. Omnipotent beings, in order to be Omnipotent, must be able to NOT be Omnipotent, otherwise they can't do everything, and thus, are not Omnipotent.
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That's the reason Tier 0/High 1-A is probably going to be dropped. There isn't a clear way to define what's a 0 or 1-A as it changes depending on the verse, one can be "Omnipotent" by being superior to one 1-A or an endless amount of it.Seol404 said:
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He already is.
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I don't, and it's because power is subjective, such as TOAA's level, or the definition of "Omnipotence" itself, as it got changed many times already; From the "ability to do anything" to the "ability to do anything logically possible" to "anything that doesn't contradict one's own nature" and so on.
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Omnipotence is a concept that is in constant change, always being questioned.
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Quite the opposite, Omnipotence was made because we didn't understand and we just said "Oh, it's absolutely everything and anything ever of course!" and now we do, and see that it just doesn't work.
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I am.
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You can't prove I am not. The evidence that I can, could be literally anything. I can send you text. I am Omnipotent.
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Omnipotent beings can waste their time on Joke Battles Wiki as they can do anything, whether they do, or not, doesn't mean they can't. In fact, that's one of the arguments for a definition of Omnipotence, as "It's within my nature" to waste time on JBW.
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Anyway, Xshia by "just realising that he's just a guy who is really high up."
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If that was intented to be a joke, your sense of humor has severe deficiency of the "funny" aspect.Seol404 said:
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