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Xeno Goku revision thread

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This is a thread to add more information on Xeno Goku that vs battle wikis missed alot.
 
Xeno Goku was equal to a Final Form Mira who absorbed Toki Toki.
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The funny thing is that people heavily downplay toki toki and what she can actually do inside the verse.
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via his keysword he Can Seal any enemy ability , some of which includes, Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, dark magic etc
 
Xeno Goku was equal to a Final Form Mira who absorbed Toki Toki. The funny thing is that people heavily downplay toki toki and what she can actually do inside the verse.
So what can Toki Toki do that is relevant?
via his keysword he Can Seal any enemy ability , some of which includes, Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, dark magic etc
 
regeneration negation
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Regeneration Negation via Keysword: was able to cancel out Mechikabura’s Regeneration, due to Trunks being able to negate Mechi’s infinite Regen due to the Keysword
 
Im getting to it, Im just posting some of the stuff people told me was not added as information.
 
I, meanwhile, predict that absolutely nothing at all will come from this thread.
 
He also drains life and adds it to his own. By using the draw ability that he learned from harnessing god ki, Goku is capable of sucking his opponent life force to heal himself or allies, before crushing it, causing it to explode causing fatal damage to opponents life.
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Xeno Goku was equal to a Final Form Mira who absorbed Toki Toki.
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He can also seal others powers completely with the key sword.
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Reduce DMG
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This is a passive ability btw.

Conceptual manipulation
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concept destruction/alteration - can fight against Demigra who absorbed Toki Toki who is an abstract being who embodies the concept of time and controls all of space and time within the infinite multiverse. Time is an abstract non-physical property, so being able to be the embodiment of it means you rely on having control over it as a concept. So Xeno Goku being able to harm conceptual abstract beings grants him conceptual attacks on a destructive level. Also, Toki Toki is important to existence, meaning he relies on a concept to exist, so as long as that concept exists, he cannot die, thus granting Type 8 immortality which Xeno Goku can bypass via various abilities. Toki Toki is affected by the tampering of time and can also resurrect himself through eggs that hold time, this makes him conceptual also because he scales to toki toki absorbed mira which is the cause for all dimensions meaning being beyond a person who absorbed someone who created all dimensions making him directly via power scaling above dimensions.
 
He also drains life and adds it to his own. By using the draw ability that he learned from harnessing god ki, Goku is capable of sucking his opponent life force to heal himself or allies, before crushing it, causing it to explode causing fatal damage to opponents life.
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Xeno Goku was equal to a Final Form Mira who absorbed Toki Toki.
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He can also seal others powers completely with the key sword.
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Reduce DMG
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This is a passive ability btw.

Conceptual manipulation
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concept destruction/alteration - can fight against Demigra who absorbed Toki Toki who is an abstract being who embodies the concept of time and controls all of space and time within the infinite multiverse. Time is an abstract non-physical property, so being able to be the embodiment of it means you rely on having control over it as a concept. So Xeno Goku being able to harm conceptual abstract beings grants him conceptual attacks on a destructive level. Also, Toki Toki is important to existence, meaning he relies on a concept to exist, so as long as that concept exists, he cannot die, thus granting Type 8 immortality which Xeno Goku can bypass via various abilities. Toki Toki is affected by the tampering of time and can also resurrect himself through eggs that hold time, this makes him conceptual also because he scales to toki toki absorbed mira which is the cause for all dimensions meaning being beyond a person who absorbed someone who created all dimensions making him directly via power scaling above dimensions.
the life manipulation stuff is on the profile already, well not on xeno gokus i think cuz there's reasons why its not

again on the profile

cool

this is copied from reddit lol
 
Also controling all of time and space means you control all temporal and spacial dimensions.
 
He also drains life and adds it to his own. By using the draw ability that he learned from harnessing god ki, Goku is capable of sucking his opponent life force to heal himself or allies, before crushing it, causing it to explode causing fatal damage to opponents life.
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Xeno Goku was equal to a Final Form Mira who absorbed Toki Toki.
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He can also seal others powers completely with the key sword.
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Reduce DMG
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This is a passive ability btw.

Conceptual manipulation
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concept destruction/alteration - can fight against Demigra who absorbed Toki Toki who is an abstract being who embodies the concept of time and controls all of space and time within the infinite multiverse. Time is an abstract non-physical property, so being able to be the embodiment of it means you rely on having control over it as a concept. So Xeno Goku being able to harm conceptual abstract beings grants him conceptual attacks on a destructive level. Also, Toki Toki is important to existence, meaning he relies on a concept to exist, so as long as that concept exists, he cannot die, thus granting Type 8 immortality which Xeno Goku can bypass via various abilities. Toki Toki is affected by the tampering of time and can also resurrect himself through eggs that hold time, this makes him conceptual also because he scales to toki toki absorbed mira which is the cause for all dimensions meaning being beyond a person who absorbed someone who created all dimensions making him directly via power scaling above dimensions.
Goku already has life force absorption, damage reduction,power null with keysword and what does fighting mira exactly gives Goku
 
He also drains life and adds it to his own. By using the draw ability that he learned from harnessing god ki, Goku is capable of sucking his opponent life force to heal himself or allies, before crushing it, causing it to explode causing fatal damage to opponents life.
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Xeno Goku was equal to a Final Form Mira who absorbed Toki Toki.
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He can also seal others powers completely with the key sword.
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Reduce DMG
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This is a passive ability btw.

Conceptual manipulation
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concept destruction/alteration - can fight against Demigra who absorbed Toki Toki who is an abstract being who embodies the concept of time and controls all of space and time within the infinite multiverse. Time is an abstract non-physical property, so being able to be the embodiment of it means you rely on having control over it as a concept. So Xeno Goku being able to harm conceptual abstract beings grants him conceptual attacks on a destructive level. Also, Toki Toki is important to existence, meaning he relies on a concept to exist, so as long as that concept exists, he cannot die, thus granting Type 8 immortality which Xeno Goku can bypass via various abilities. Toki Toki is affected by the tampering of time and can also resurrect himself through eggs that hold time, this makes him conceptual also because he scales to toki toki absorbed mira which is the cause for all dimensions meaning being beyond a person who absorbed someone who created all dimensions making him directly via power scaling above dimensions.
That’s just space-time manipulation. There’s nothing conceptual being implied here.
 
Look at that, nothing new. Also, where did you get that TokiToki stuff from, because I swear I've seen the exact wording before in a rejected CRT.
 
The power to hurt someone who has absorbed the embodiment of time and responsible for creating all dimensions
 
Like a year ago, I think, and before you say something about being long enough to try again. No, nothing you posted wasn't posted back then, don't waste everyones' time more than you already have.
 
I saw the exactly same stuff on comicvine during Xeno Goku vs some randoms matches, the fact that all the scans already are on their profiles makes the situtation even worse, lol
 
Also controling all of time and space means you control all temporal and spacial dimensions.
Occam's razor says otherwise, first off nothing implies that, second you need to prove that they're controling all higher Dimensions beyond the normal 3 Dimensions of space and 1 Dimensions of time.
 
Also controling all of time and space means you control all temporal and spacial dimensions.
that's no near to controll all possible higher spatial and temporal dimensions with respect to a space-time, that's just like destroying the foundation of the columns
 
Mira has never absorbed Tokitoki (and the one who fought Xeno Goku definitely didn't).

Xeno Goku already has the Key Sword, and the Key Sword already has Regeneration Negation (Goku's shouldn't, since that was exclusive to Trunks's fully-charged Key Sword, but that's an argument for another time).

Xeno Goku already has Draw (which he shouldn't, but again, argument for another time; also it's not God Ki-based) and Damage Reduction.

He doesn't have Conceptual Manipulation because even if your reasoning was actually legit (it's not), the Demigra he fought did not absorb Tokitoki.
 
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