Xeno Goku (Dragon Ball Heroes) Vs. Lucario (Pokémon 7)

[Royalty1702]

Shenron Mode is restricted.

Fight takes place on Earth.

Lucario is 2-B.

Speed Equalized.

Xeno Goku: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Xeno_Goku

Lucario: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lucario_(Pokemon_7)

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Just want to fix something:

Goku can CREATE his own dimensions and trap his opponenets in there. There isn't a dimension that exits on his own.

 

[Royalty1702]

Let me fix that.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Are we even allowed to restrict a character from using an ability

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

We are.

 

[DMUA]

Yeah. A common example is Reinhard's Type 8, which no one fighting his 4-C and 6-A key can bypass.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

No one under 1-A can bypass it, and few 1-A characters can bypass it. So yeah, that one is a given.

But Mario and Cell Saga Goku once had a battle when Mario had a High 4-C key, and they restricted Mario's Time Manipulation to make the battle more fair.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Alright.

I'll give it to Goku via Sealing (Can seal away all his powers and Lucario himself), superior AP by a mile, and that he can time travel back in time to change events

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Goku due to superior hax and more solidified multiverse status

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

>Goku due to superior hax

^)

 

[DMUA]

Yeah. Xeno Goku seems to have a much better set of hax to play with. I'll side with him.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

I should note that Xeno Goku isn't like DBS Goku. He met his DBS self and implied he is far different than he was then. So he isn't going to take risks and will use whatever is needed to take out his opponent

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

>Goku due to superior hax
^)

probably the first time someone has ever said that on this website lol

(won't be the last either kek)

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Goku due to superior hax and more solidified multiverse status

If we use Lucario's 2-B key, he's faaaaar superior to Goku.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

How early in the fight will Goku use his hax?

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Goku is superior to Demigra who was collapsing "Countless timelines" in base. He then has his transformations and Kaioken times 100. I really doubt Darkrai is above that

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

which would you prefer, a meh but possibly more powerful stat or a solidified and still powerful but not as high stat? i prefer the latter

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Every version of the pokémon games are part of the multiverse. Just from games copies from Pokémon Emerald alone we have over 30 million, not counting the different things you can do in that game.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

@Lep

Not much in base, higher in 1 and so on so forth.

If he is using 3/4 then almost always. 1/2 less.

But he transformations to each form depending on how strong they are and he has a good judgement of people he fights so yeah.

If you don't want to go with that then...... . OP, what form is Goku using?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Well... SBA states that they are at their strongest, so Ssj4 I guess?

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Oh. Then he's going to try defeat Lucario as soon as possible.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

>Restrciting Shenron mode

>Literally the best hax he has. :-;

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

When fighting and trying to defeat his opponents, did Goku used his hax? Because you can try and defeat someone as fast as possible by simply punching with all your might.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

He is more incline to as a SSJ4 yes. Also, we are using the fact that the games are a part of DBH, which is why he has Sealing. Which he used asap on Omega, which is my main reason for him winning.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Goku is superior to Demigra who was collapsing "Countless timelines" in base. He then has his transformations and Kaioken times 100. I really doubt Darkrai is above that

He's far above that, trust me. ;-||

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

which would you prefer, a meh but possibly more powerful stat or a solidified and still powerful but not as high stat? i prefer the latter

It doesn't matter. That's like pitting up Simon the Digger against a baseline High 1-C and saying that Simon is weaker because he might be just 2-B. It doesn't work like that. Lucario scales to Darkrai, who is waaaay above the power that Goku is as a 2-B.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

How is he above?

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...d/Level_of_2-B_for_the_Creation_Trio_+_Arceus

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

But it's the same for Heroes? Countless timelines + dimensional doors that open up to other dimensions. Each dimension having the same amount of timelines.

Anway, still with Goku via sealing more than anything

 

[ZERO7772]

I should note that Xeno Goku isn't like DBS Goku. He met his DBS self and implied he is far different than he was then. So he isn't going to take risks and will use whatever is needed to take out his opponent

Wait so Xeno Goku has god ki? didn't knew that

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Yes.

He met both SSJ4 and SSJG Goku. And said he remembers when he did the ritual.

 

[ZERO7772]

But he use SSJ4 most of the time no? SSJ4 > SSB lol

Anyway, I thought this is Goku form alternative timeline but it seems Goku cam from alternative future for that matter...

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

No no. It is unknown why he doesn't use God yet.

There are multiple things in heroes that puts God above 4. Such as TB bardock competing with demon gods who are scared of Beerus

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

But it's the same for Heroes? Countless timelines + dimensional doors that open up to other dimensions. Each dimension having the same amount of timelines.

Anway, still with Goku via sealing more than anything

So can you prove that each dimensional door has countless timelines and that the feats that affected all the timelines affected them all in the other dimensions? And even then, it still really doesn't equate to the potency that Darkrai scales to.

 

[Stryk3r1337]

Goku due to superior hax and more solidified multiverse status

Goku win and hax in the same sentence? Am I dreaming or what? :')

 

[DMUA]

Heroes is a beautiful thing.

 

[ZERO7772]

^It's the power of non canon

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

So...Lucario just...hits him a few times. Nuff said...

 

[PaChi2]

Reopened

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Lucario still wins due to basically just oneshotting.