WWE CRT (AP Upgrade)

[RandomGuy2345]

That’s not really that big of a gap, you’d have to argue it’s an outlier result and 4x differences for stuff like 20,000 PSI does not reach into those extremities

The T-Rex has a bite force of 431,000 PSI. The Dunkleosteus has a bite force of 80,000 PSI.

Compared to the Nile Crocodile, which is only 5,000 PSI.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I wanna get a higher figure than the Car Explosion since that would be an all time high for the verse, which would be great, since we were hit with extreme downgrades and nearly dropped into 9-C+ not all that long ago

I just want the WWE to get back in the Megajoules again. The opponents we had were so much better than the ones we have now.

Though I will say Jericho vs Tsukasa and Jericho vs Deathstroke were 5-Star Classics.

 

[DivineAura44]

If the WWE verse is able to get upgraded to somewhere between 800KJ - 2MJ, then I'd be satisfied.

Bro I just need to find this statement of John Cena threatening to send someone to the moon. Eazy like 2.7 - 5.4MJ right there.

 

[Pikaman]

The T-Rex has a bite force of 431,000 PSI. The Dunkleosteus has a bite force of 80,000 PSI.

Compared to the Nile Crocodile, which is only 5,000 PSI.

OH SHIT I DON’T REMEMBER THEM BEING THAT HIGH-

Yeah I feel uncomfortable going being the 20,000, 30,000 PSI at most ranges

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Austin Theory vs Violet Evergarden and Finn Balor vs Deathstroke were also really good, too.

 

[Pikaman]

Bro I just need to find this statement of John Cena threatening to send someone to the moon. Eazy like 2.7 - 5.4MJ right there.

I calculated Rosalina kicking a football into orbit once and it just scraped 9-B so a person could get decent results lol

 

[Pikaman]

We should accept 9-C as our new tier there is simply no other way I tried them all, I think there will be fresh matches, New opponents and we can do a lot plus who doesn't want a 9-C Tournament so you can call this a Reset for the verse.

- @DemonicDude

damn we’ve come so far

 

[DivineAura44]

I calculated Rosalina kicking a football into orbit once and it just scraped 9-B so a person could get decent results lol

Yeah but I'd need the person and the statement itself.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Bro I just need to find this statement of John Cena threatening to send someone to the moon. Eazy like 2.7 - 5.4MJ right there.

This is a crazy statement ngl. We're gonna have to try our best to convince staff that this is okay to use.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

OH SHIT I DON’T REMEMBER THEM BEING THAT HIGH-

Yeah I feel uncomfortable going being the 20,000, 30,000 PSI at most ranges

PSI is different than AP.

A 4x AP gap is still doable if the opponent has the right tools to finish them off.

An animal going up against another animal with a PSI 4x greater than theirs is getting shit on.

 

[DivineAura44]

This is a crazy statement ngl. We're gonna have to try our best to convince staff that this is okay to use.

I mean if we use this current feat, the statement and maybe like 2 or three other feats at that point it stops becoming outliers and starts becoming consistent.

 

[Pikaman]

This is a crazy statement ngl. We're gonna have to try our best to convince staff that this is okay to use.

Well

A: We can’t find it

B: I’m gonna be real that statement is hella outlandish and likely hyperbole

 

[DivineAura44]

PSI is different than AP.

A 4x AP gap is still doable if the opponent has the right tools to finish them off.

An animal going up against another animal with a PSI 4x greater than theirs is getting shit on.

Not if it has other tools.

 

[DivineAura44]

Well

A: We can’t find it

B: I’m gonna be real that statement is hella outlandish and likely hyperbole

Most definitely. (Time to start looking for 5-B feats.)

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Not if it has other tools.

Most animals don't have the tools to win a fight against another animal if their opponents bite is far stronger than theirs.

There are exceptions to this, but more often than not, the animal with the stronger bite wins.

 

[KLOL506]

Anyway, I got Kamala's pixel-scaling references down here:


Kamala (Red) is 1308px or 6ft 7in (2.0066 m)

His fist length (Blue) is 55px. His fist height (Green) is 44px.

Length: 2.0066 * (55/1308)= 0.08437538226 m

Width: 2.0066 * (44/1308)= 0.06750030581 m

Fist impact area: 0.08437538226 * 0.06750030581 = 0.0056953641 m^2

Saltwater crocodile bite-force: 3700 psi or 2.5511e+7 pascal (The Nile Croc's 5000 lbf bite was measured in lbf, it's not the same unit as psi)

Force: 2.5511e+7 * 0.0056953641= 145294.433555 Newtons

Work (Energy)= Force x Displacement

What is the furthest distance that Kamala has moved someone with a single full-powered punch of his?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Saltwater crocodile bite-force: 3700 psi or 2.5511e+7 pascal (The Nile Croc's 5000 lbf bite was measured in lbf, it's not the same unit as psi)

According to this, a Nile Crocodile's bite force is 5,000 PSI, not lbf

 

[Pikaman]

What is the furthest distance that Kamala has moved someone with a single full-powered punch of his?

Well a wrestling ring is 6.1 metres, so you could use 25%, 50%, and 75% of that as low, mid, and high ends, maybe the full length as a VERY high end

Low End: 1.525 Metres

Mid End: 3.05 Metres

High End: 4.575 Metres

High-End DX: 6.1 Metres

 

[RandomGuy2345]

What is the furthest distance that Kamala has moved someone with a single full-powered punch of his?

Would a chop to the head be applicable? Looking at some of Kamala's matches, he tends to use chops to the head to strike his opponent.

Tbf, it is very, very hard to tell how far a wrestler sent another wrestler with a single punch.

However, I did find this:

A headbutt from Kamala was able to send Randy Orton a decent length across the ring.

Well a wrestling ring is 6.1 metres, so you could use 25%, 50%, and 75% of that as low, mid, and high ends, maybe the full length as a VERY high end

Low End: 1.525 Metres

Mid End: 3.05 Metres

High End: 4.575 Metres

High-End DX: 6.1 Metres

Though I do think Pika's method works better.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Would a chop to the head be applicable? Looking at some of Kamala's matches, he tends to use chops to the head to strike his opponent.

A headbutt from Kamala was able to send Randy Orton a decent length across the ring.

I would also like to mention that a headbutt, as well as a chop is a far weaker strike than a punch.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

According to this, a Nile Crocodile's bite force is 5,000 PSI, not lbf

@KLOL506

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Well a wrestling ring is 6.1 metres, so you could use 25%, 50%, and 75% of that as low, mid, and high ends, maybe the full length as a VERY high end

Low End: 1.525 Metres

Mid End: 3.05 Metres

High End: 4.575 Metres

High-End DX: 6.1 Metres

Low End: 145294.433555 * 1.525 = 221574.011171 Joules

Mid End: 145294.433555 * 3.05 = 443148.022343 Joules

High End: 145294.433555 * 4.575 = 664772.033514 Joules

High End DX: 145294.433555 * 6.1 = 886296.044685 Joules

The highest we could possibly get is 886.3 Kilojoules, which is fairly well into Wall level, but it's not exactly what I'm looking for.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Saltwater crocodile bite-force: 3700 psi or 2.5511e+7 pascal (The Nile Croc's 5000 lbf bite was measured in lbf, it's not the same unit as psi)

I will say that the Nile Crocodile's bite force is indeed 5,000 PSI. I already showed a link to prove it.

 

[Pikaman]

Honestly I think the mid end makes the most sense, the verse seems rather consistently in the 500KJ range, and sending an opponent halfway across the ring is not crazy far fetched

 

[Pikaman]

I will say that the Nile Crocodile's bite force is indeed 5,000 PSI. I already showed a link to prove it.

Did you use 5,000 PSI in your calcs above?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Did you use 5,000 PSI in your calcs above?

Nope. Give me a sec.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Honestly I think the mid end makes the most sense, the verse seems rather consistently in the 500KJ range, and sending an opponent halfway across the ring is not crazy far fetched

Mid or High End is cool with me.

Low end is something casually done, and High End DX is a bit too far fetched.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

5,000 PSI = 3.4474e+7 pascals

Force: 3.4474e+7 * 0.0056953641 = 196341.981983 N

Low End: 196341.981983 * 1.525 = 299421.522524 Joules

Mid End: 196341.981983 * 3.05 = 598843.045048 Joules

High End: 196341.981983 * 4.575 = 898264.567572 Joules

High End DX: 196341.981983 * 6.1 = 1197686.0901 Joules

If we used the highest end possible, then the verse would be over 1 Megajoule. However, this isn't very likely, as assuming a wrestler can punch another wrestler all the way across the ring is a little far fetched.

The Mid or High End works better.

 

[Pikaman]

Yeah I’m down for Mid and High ends and both are pretty consistent with other results

 

[Pikaman]

Supernatural Tiers would be eating good as they’d be >> the feat

 

[KLOL506]

According to this, a Nile Crocodile's bite force is 5,000 PSI, not lbf

The news article got it wrong, I remember that episode on National Geographic, it explicitly stated "pounds of force" AKA lbf, Brady's own words (See here for yourself).

They are not the same units.

 

[Pikaman]

Wikipedia lists it as 5,000 lbf

 

[KLOL506]

Wikipedia lists it as 5,000 lbf

You got ninja'd

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Can lbf be converted to PSI?

 

[KLOL506]

Can lbf be converted to PSI?

No. It can be converted to joules tho, but 5000 lbf wields 6779.09 J.

That's the yield of a .338 Lapua Magnum.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

No. It can be converted to joules tho, but 5000 lbf wields 6779.09 J.

That's the yield of a .338 Lapua Magnum.

Well, a Great White Shark has bite force of 4,000 PSI.

Other than that, I got nothing lol

 

[RandomGuy2345]

4,000 PSI = 2.7579e+7 pascals

Force: 2.7579e+7 * 0.00934474307 = 257718.669128 N

Low End: 257718.669128 * 1.525 = 393020.97042 Joules

Mid End: 257718.669128 * 3.05 = 786041.94084 Joules

High End: 257718.669128 * 4.575 = 1179062.91126 Joules

High End DX: 257718.669128 * 6.1 = 1572083.88168

I just realized I accidentally used Big Show's fist impact area instead of Kamala's lmao

Then again, I don't think Big Show scaling to Kamala is a bad thing to assume, since Big Show's fist are bigger than Kamala's, and I have proof that Big Show should be on the same level as Kamala.

So WWE could potentially be 1.179 Megajoules.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

This can only happen if @KLOL506 approves of WWE wrestlers scaling to a Great White Shark.

 

[KLOL506]

This can only happen if @KLOL506 approves of WWE wrestlers scaling to a Great White Shark.

The bite pressure difference between the saltwater croc and the shark is only 300 psi. It'll mean absolutely ****-all in the long run.

And no, you should only use the surface area of the person that was compared to the animal directly.

So if it was Kamala being directly compared to the strongest of animals, then you should use only Kamala. If it was Big Show, then you'd use only Big Show.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

The bite pressure difference between the saltwater croc and the shark is only 300 psi. It'll mean absolutely ****-all in the long run.

And no, you should only use the surface area of the person that was compared to the animal directly.

So if it was Kamala being directly compared to the strongest of animals, then you should use only Kamala. If it was Big Show, then you'd use only Big Show.

But I wanted to use Big Show's fist...