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Wu Mian vs Rai
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he doesnt seem to be that intelligent so he likely lets his name slip which should be enough for a quick teleportation + gluttony gg
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Truth is smarter and usually in control, he wouldn't just say his name randomly. And if Rai asks, Truth would definitely feel something's off and not answer.
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Look at the link I put (I worked very hard on that profile!)
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Does he only needs to clap his hands?
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Yes.
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Is it in character for him to start with it?
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It was the only time he ever did it. He's more inclined to use his body puppetry or Paradox in character.
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he doesnt ask it in a conspicuous manner, he is a slimeball and names himself as part of a combat custom which is generally followed throughout fiction. This kind of manipulates the opponent into saying their name as well which ends with gluttony gg
btw his intelligence section doesnt have anything notable so what you are saying wont apply
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Truth doesn't do this though, and he'd be wary of such a thing. Also they start 4km away, Rai isn't gonna get the chance to just nonchalantly ask.
Gifted; Is seemingly always able to outdo an opponent in skill, delving deeper into his ability to counter one's counter and figure out one's ability. Could tell what a Spark member was thinking[80] and stop his plan with power.
If Rai asked Truth he would deduce it's for some offensive reasoning.
I have just remembered, but Wu Mian, isn't even the real name, and then there's Truth as well, Wu Mian is actually another personality, so even if he could steal a name there's two other personalities
Basically there's Wu Mian, Truth, and then the unknown scribbled named. If Wu did give up his name or Truth, another personality would come out.
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he would only need to eat the first name which would be the dudes name itself (plus he gains every ability they have anyway so it will just be him vs himself but more skilled and has wayyy more stuff)
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i am confused, which key are you using? is it tier 6C vs tier low 7C or?
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8-B vs 8-B
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he can just teleport though
he doesnt ask for names he just gives them his own and that gives them a social cue to do the same
btw he has dealt with gifted and genius characters of intelligence as well so that isnt helping
already explained this, he only needs the original name since Subaru has multiple personalities as well but only his name was required
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He only has hundreds of meters in range.
That doesn't sound like something that'll work on Truth then.
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isn't his teleport only for short range?
natsuki subaru is still his only name tho
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he did it to smarter people and you havent shown me anything that helps your case, just saying "no" doesnt answer me either
he can teleport multiple times though
we are talking about multiple personalities which would include meilli portrouite and louis arneb in arc 6
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fair enough
i may be wrong since it's been a long time since i've read arc 6 but wasn't meili only a hallucination?(
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I haven't said "no" I've given a explanation to you how unrealistic such a scenario would happen.
Depends on the layering but otherwise yeah they have 1 layer of invisibility perception.
Invisibility (Masks are invisible[3]. Truth is invisible[4] even to those who can see Masks like Zi Luo Lan)
Neutral Vision - Can see masks which are invisible[10]. Can see through disguises[11])
Besides Subaru not having this on page, Truth is another organism not just a personality.
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idk if it's layered but ig it doesn't matter since he has high-mid regen so even if it hits him it won't be able to kill him
yin magic should work since wu mian doesn't resist sense manip
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Could I see this? It's not on page. They also have a force field they can have up to protect themselves.
And I don't see Rai having any npi? Truth is incorporeal in his world.
- Incorporeality (Cannot be interacted[29] with regularly[30] within his world and also is considered to be incorporeal[31] as air cannot interact with him)
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- Statistics Reduction and Sense Manipulation (Yin magic specializes in debuffs and blocking senses)
could ley interact with him once truth takes control of the body?
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Nah like see what was stated/how it's done.
In Truth's world is when it happens so no.
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if you want to argue that gluttony wouldnt work then it just becomes a stomp
has this layer been accepted yet?
Ley's invisibility is +1 as well
i have no clue how these multiple personalities will interact with it but Ley rips out your soul as well and he might even get it upgraded to have more complex stuff added so i still think its unlikely
btw what is his real name anyway?
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Ley's ability isn't about personalities, Memories are merely gunk stuck to the soul, he consumes these Memories from the soul. What he needs to activate Gluttony is the Name– that being the first name the target received at birth– in order to plunder the soul's Memories.
Subaru having some of Meili's Memories doesn't change the Name.
Subaru having some of Meili's Memories doesn't change the Name.
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Nah I'll get em passed shortly.
It's unknown for now and the series hasn't been updated in a while sadly.
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then Wu Mian is his name, Ley has taken the names of people much smarter than him btw
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??? The true name of the person is unknown, would giving false name Wu Mian work?
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the first name given matters, how is the true name related?
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The first name is the unknown name then?
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i need context on the unknown name, if it was smth after Wu Mian then it wouldnt work.
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I gave context.
In context, the guy in a suit is part of org, he knows the personality that was in the body before Wumian but its not given. Then also even if Wu Mian did give his name and got erased, Truth would've been right there and saw the whole thing happen so he'd then take place and fight Rai.
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no, everything about you is ripped out from your very soul
This would also include truth
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Truth isn't part of his soul though? And Truth is their own person.
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what is truth then? the second part doesnt matter because Meilli was like a whole other personality inside of Subaru
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Truth is just another organism that exists in Wu Mian.
Is this wrong? Cause then this just answers if Rai can do it or not.
And if he tries stealing the fake names then he becomes plagued with severe nausea. I'm starting to think this is just a stomp.
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probably a stomp, btw is truth low 7C?
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