(WR2M2) 8-B Shooters Tournament: Megatron (Transformers DS) VS Quincy

[Psychomaster35]

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Previously, we have had 16 shooters sign up and fight for their lives, and 8 unfortunately fell. However, the other 8 have succeeded on their first try, feeling relief they could live another day, but of course, it wasn’t over. We begin the first winner’s match as the leader of the Decepticons and slayer of the Monstrous Humanoid, Megatron (nominated by @XSOULOFCINDERX), fights the Archer Monkey and slayer of the Autobot, Quincy (nominated by @JustANormalLemon)!

Base Megatron and Level 20 Quincy are used. Rules stated in the tournament hub.

Who wins?

Megatron:

Quincy:

Inconclusive: 7 (Popted2, RandomGuy2345, Psychomaster35, XSOULOFCINDERX, JustANormalLemon, Oliver de jesus, GoldenScorpions)

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

What's the AP Difference?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Megatron: Upscales from a 75.4917156381453 Tons of TNT feat

Quincy: scales deafeating from Z.O.N.G.S, but I'm confused withe the numbers, trough It kinda is irrelevant thanks to quincy doing more damage the strongher the oponent is

This is a very similar battle to dino, but in this, Megatron has homing missles in car form,

Quincy starts with rain of arrows and them get's closet to fill the oponent with explosive arrows, he can use his boosting hability to become more agile to dodge projectiles and shoot in high speeds wegstron homing missles, not to mention quincye beijg a small monkey and megatron being bigger them a building will make almost impossible to the autobot pass trough his bow and him hit quincy

 

[Psychomaster35]

Bump

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I voted quincy

 

[Psychomaster35]

Vote counted

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So what's stopping Megatron from just staying in the air and Range Spamming him to death out of Quincy's Range as soon as he figures out that he can't really hit him from the ground?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

So what's stopping Megatron from just staying in the air and Range Spamming him to death out of Quincy's Range as soon as he figures out that he can't really hit him from the ground?

Megatron can fly? And the rain of arrows should cover that

I have my doubts megatron would survive the first rain of arrows considering how much arrows has in this fanmaku atack

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Megatron can fly? And the rain of arrows should cover that

I have my doubts megatron would survive the first rain of arrows considering how much arrows has in this fanmaku atack

Yes he can fly, he literally transforms into an Alien Space Jet. How is he hitting him when he's out of Quincy's Range? Quincy has Several Meters while Megatron has Tens of Meters.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Yes he can fly, he literally transforms into an Alien Space Jet. How is he hitting him when he's out of Quincy's Range? Quincy has Several Meters while Megatron has Tens of Meters.

Quincy range is vased on horizontal projectiles but ok, This isn't on his profile

But can megatron survive the first play rain of arrows?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Quincy range is vased on horizontal projectiles but ok, This isn't on his profile

But can megatron survive the first play rain of arrows?

More than likely considering even while he was literally crippled he had a full on Boss Fight with Optimus Prime and was still a major threat to him. That's not even taking his Healing Factor into account either.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

More than likely considering even while he was literally crippled he had a full on Boss Fight with Optimus Prime and was still a major threat to him. That's not even taking his Healing Factor into account either.

Could he fly after that? Not only quincy does more damage the strongher the oponent is, if megatron couldn't, couldn't quincy jump into him? A small monkey is a powerfull opinent

And flying can't he only use missles? Beacuse quincy could destroy the rpojectiles before they get closer

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Could he fly after that? Not only quincy does more damage the strongher the oponent is, if megatron couldn't, couldn't quincy jump into him? A small monkey is a powerfull opinent

And flying can't he only use missles? Beacuse quincy could destroy the rpojectiles before they get closer

He didn't really try to transform but that's probably also because the Game's Enemy AI isn't that good either so that could be why.

No, he can still use both of his weapons in Vehicle Form. His Vehicle Form just makes his Heavy Weapon faster at the expense of only shooting two of them at a time. His Light Weapon on the other hand gets a buff since it also shoots faster but does the exact same amount of damage and it isn't really a projectile since it's just a straight up laser.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

He didn't really try to transform but that's probably also because the Game's Enemy AI isn't that good either so that could be why.

No, he can still use both of his weapons in Vehicle Form. His Vehicle Form just makes his Heavy Weapon faster at the expense of only shooting two of them at a time. His Light Weapon on the other hand gets a buff since it also shoots faster but does the exact same amount of damage and it isn't really a projectile since it's just a straight up laser.

Well quinta should be able to still dodge It thanks to equalized speed and his hability that makes him more agile

About the the first part you are making It sern that isn't much in character to transform during direct fights and hoje didn't responded if he could fly whem damaged that he would be thanks to the first turn rai of arrows

If he can't fly damaged quincy just need to aproche and outdamage his regem

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

OK, I'm sorry but I literally can't even understand what you just said.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

OK, I'm sorry but I literally can't even understand what you just said.

I'm not really right well, so It isn't your fault

Well quinta should be able to still dodge It thanks to equalized speed and his hability that makes him more agile

About the the first part you are making It sern that isn't much in character to transform during direct fights and hoje didn't responded if he could fly whem damaged that he would be thanks to the first turn rai of arrows

If he can't fly damaged quincy just need to aproche and outdamage his regem

Well quincy should be able to dodge It still thanks to equalized speed and his statustic amplification that makes him more agile

About the the first part, you made It seen that IS ooc to megatron to transform during direct fights and you also didn't responded if he could fly whem damaged, that he would be thanks to the first turn rain of arrows

If he can't fly thanks to the high damag, quincy just need to getclose and outdamage his regem

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

The only reason he didn't fly before getting crippled is because he was being Amped by the Allspark and was being extremely arrogant. After he got ****** up by getting said Allspark smashed into his face, he had to fight someone who he would otherwise be stronger than and win against, so I guess he was still being arrogant since that's kind of a huge weakness for him. It's not out of character for him to fight as a Jet considering he does that to Starscream, albeit Starscream is also a Jet and if you even try to turn into a Jet during the Jazz Boss Fight, you get shot out of the sky by Missiles that come from Off-Screen because Jazz can't hit you as a Jet. So it is a tactic he uses, but against Non-Standard Opponents and failed to use it because it would be an unfair Game Mechanic for one of the Bosses.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

The only reason he didn't fly before getting crippled is because he was being Amped by the Allspark and was being extremely arrogant. After he got ****** up by getting said Allspark smashed into his face, he had to fight someone who he would otherwise be stronger than and win against, so I guess he was still being arrogant since that's kind of a huge weakness for him. It's not out of character for him to fight as a Jet considering he does that to Starscream, albeit Starscream is also a Jet and if you even try to turn into a Jet during the Jazz Boss Fight, you get shot out of the sky by Missiles that come from Off-Screen because Jazz can't hit you as a Jet. So it is a tactic he uses, but against Non-Standard Opponents and failed to use it because it would be an unfair Game Mechanic for one of the Bosses.

If being so arrogant is a weakness why would he use It against a very small monkey with a bow and Arrow?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

If being so arrogant is a weakness why would he use It against a very small monkey with a bow and Arrow?

Because as arrogant as he is, he's not a ******* idiot. The two examples of him being really arrogant beyond belief are not normal circumstances. Like I said, he basically had the ultimate power source in the universe in the palm of his hand, he just One-Shot Optimus after No-Selling his best attack but then was thrown up against a literal who of a character who just so happened to somehow be his equal even with that amp and the second case is also not normal because he's fighting someone he would normally be superior to, he just lost the Allspark and he's pissed off more than he usually is to boot because said Literal Who technically beat him at his absolute strongest and stole the Allspark so he's not exactly thinking straight either.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Because as arrogant as he is, he's not a ******* idiot. The two examples of him being really arrogant beyond belief are not normal circumstances. Like I said, he basically had the ultimate power source in the universe in the palm of his hand, he just One-Shot Optimus after No-Selling his best attack but then was thrown up against a literal who of a character who just so happened to somehow be his equal even with that amp and the second case is also not normal because he's fighting someone he would normally be superior to, he just lost the Allspark and he's pissed off more than he usually is to boot because said Literal Who technically beat him at his absolute strongest and stole the Allspark so he's not exactly thinking straight either.

Ok but all thst he sees in quincy is a small organic creature with a primitive weapon, he is bassicaly would think he is in the "I'm good" situation here sinse why woupd he think a small money with a bow could be a real problem for him?

And even if he try to use It, he would need to notice that quincy range is limited, not to mention that quincy could just take hum down before he get's out of range thanks to the amazing atack speed he has with a danmaku of explosive arrows

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

While you can say that, his response to things he sees as literal Fodder are to just immediately kill them because they're worthless insects. The instant he realizes "Oh shit, this thing hits hard and fast and it's small" he would do the smart thing and try to avoid it as much as possible. None of his Canon Opponents had a weapon that shoots that fast except for arguably Create-A-Bot who he didn't even see as a threat until it was too late for it to matter.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

While you can say that, his response to things he sees as literal Fodder are to just immediately kill them because they're worthless insects. The instant he realizes "Oh shit, this thing hits hard and fast and it's small" he would do the smart thing and try to avoid it as much as possible. None of his Canon Opponents had a weapon that shoots that fast except for arguably Create-A-Bot who he didn't even see as a threat until it was too late for it to matter.

Well, so what stops from It be to late to stop quincy as well? Quincy has all he need to take hum by surprise thanks to being a surprisinly strong small monkey and can catch up with megatron tring to dodge, at the time megatron is hitted there is nothing stoping quincy to hit even more projectiles

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Well, so what stops from It be to late to stop quincy as well? Quincy has all he need to take hum by surprise thanks to being a surprisinly strong small monkey and can catch up with megatron tring to dodge, at the time megatron is hitted there is nothing stoping quincy to hit even more projectiles

The reason he didn't take Create-A-Bot seriously is because he had the Allspark and he just One-Shot his Greatest Enemy (who to his knowledge was Optimus Prime) while literally laughing off a Heavy Weapons Barrage from him. He also didn't even know who Create-A-Bot was, he assumed he was just some Random Autobot Drone who he could obliterate just as easily as he smacked Prime. Here he doesn't have the greatest power source of all time so he's not gonna make the same mistake of not using all of his abilities at his disposal. Also to answer a question from earlier, yes he can Transform while being in pretty bad shape considering that's exactly what he did in the Decepticons Game right after he was done thawing out after getting his shit kicked in while he was unconscious. Barricade even says to him immediately after he's already transformed to and from his Alt Mode that he needs to let himself heal after that beating he just took while Decepticon Create-A-Bot and Barricade were busy defending him and thawing him out respectively.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

The reason he didn't take Create-A-Bot seriously is because he had the Allspark and he just One-Shot his Greatest Enemy (who to his knowledge was Optimus Prime) while literally laughing off a Heavy Weapons Barrage from him. He also didn't even know who Create-A-Bot was, he assumed he was just some Random Autobot Drone who he could obliterate just as easily as he smacked Prime. Here he doesn't have the greatest power source of all time so he's not gonna make the same mistake of not using all of his abilities at his disposal. Also to answer a question from earlier, yes he can Transform while being in pretty bad shape considering that's exactly what he did in the Decepticons Game right after he was done thawing out after getting his shit kicked in while he was unconscious. Barricade even says to him immediately after he's already transformed to and from his Alt Mode that he needs to let himself heal after that beating he just took while Decepticon Create-A-Bot and Barricade were busy defending him and thawing him out respectively.

Ok, but again, It's a very small organic creature with a primitive weapon, for him quincy usn't even strongher them a human, there is no reason why he would take him serious

And ok, he can transform whem heavy damaged, but first, he don't know quincy maximun range to think this is a great strategy, he would be surprised that creature did so much damage and would probable think he could have more surprised, finaly, quincy can do so much damage in the start of the fight with rain of arrows plus rapid danmaku explosive fire of arrows that megatron probable wouldn't get to think of doing It before beijg or incapacitated or dead

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

If you're seriously trying to say that he can instantly kill Megatron with an impossible to avoid Barrage of Explosives then how the **** was he allowed in this tournament? This seems extremely unfair.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

If you're seriously trying to say that he can instantly kill Megatron with an impossible to avoid Barrage of Explosives then how the **** was he allowed in this tournament? This seems extremely unfair.

I'm not saing It's impossible, but wuincy first move will be rain of arrows that will make arrows fall from the sky arond his target for some seconds non stop, megatron would underestimate quincy for being a lower life form with a primitive weapon and be taken by surprise by that atack

While under that atack, quincy will have enough time to use his hability to take hum by surprise again shooting a extreme fast volew of arrows into him

It's more thst megatron is to big and wouldn't take quincy seriously that makes It a almost impossible to miss target

If negatron started using his jet form for exemple he would have a much better chance

Or if he trough wuincy would be a danger he would also have a much better chance

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I'm not saing It's impossible, but wuincy first move will be rain of arrows that will make arrows fall from the sky arond his target for some seconds non stop, megatron would underestimate quincy for being a lower life form with a primitive weapon and be taken by surprise by that atack

While under that atack, quincy will have enough time to use his hability to take hum by surprise again shooting a extreme fast volew of arrows into him

It's more thst megatron is to big and wouldn't take quincy seriously that makes It a almost impossible to miss target

If negatron started using his jet form for exemple he would have a much better chance

Or if he trough wuincy would be a danger he would also have a much better chance

That still sounds extremely ****** because you can say that about basically every character in this tournament. They'd see a cute monkey with a bow and wouldn't assume "Literal Explosive Minigun".

 

[JustANormalLemon]

That still sounds extremely ****** because you can say that about basically every character in this tournament. They'd see a cute monkey with a bow and wouldn't assume "Literal Explosive Minigun".

Well, there is literaly a taco, a car, a Guy with a sling shot, 7 character in one, a boy that has seen to many shit and more in this tournament, this is really a much more específico case them you think

the only reason I'm arguin this here is thanks to megatron, as you Said, had underestimated other that he thinks he is extreme above and being a decepticon he also alread underestimate organic life forms

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I already said that his response to Fodder is to just kill them outright. He doesn't like wasting his time on things he considers worthless.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I already said that his response to Fodder is to just kill them outright. He doesn't like wasting his time on things he considers worthless.

Well, them why not just go and step on It? He has nor reason to use his best tatics or even try to shoot It if he don't want to waste time

Eaitheir way, quincy would still pull the surprise atack thanks to that

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Well, them why not just go and step on It? He has nor reason to use his best tatics or even try to shoot It if he don't want to waste time

Eaitheir way, quincy would still pull the surprise atack thanks to that

Shooting it would be even faster than stepping on it, especially since SBA causes them to start at whoever has the most range's Range, that being Megatron in this instance.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Shooting it would be even faster than stepping on it, especially since SBA causes them to start at whoever has the most range's Range, that being Megatron in this instance.

And waste ammo into a lower life form? Why bother?

Well, even if he shoots quincy, quincy could just dodge and surprise atack with rain of arrows and do all I said before while megatron is stil realizing that yhe small orgânico life form just dodged his atack

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

And waste ammo into a lower life form? Why bother?

Well, even if he shoots quincy, quincy could just dodge and surprise atack with rain of arrows and do all I said before while megatron is stil realizing that yhe small orgânico life form just dodged his atack

He has infinite ammo, that's never gonna be a problem for him. He considered Jazz an annoyance at most and still shot him to death.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

He has infinite ammo, that's never gonna be a problem for him. He considered Jazz an annoyance at most and still shot him to death.

Well, even if he shoots quincy, quincy could just dodge and surprise atack with rain of arrows and do all I said before while megatron is stil realizing that yhe small orgânico life form just dodged his atack

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

You do realize Megatron's Gun shoots so fast that no one in his own verse can react to it, right? Actually, almost everyone's Light Weapon (with the exception of Brawl, Ratchet and a couple of Create-A-Bot's Forms) shoots so fast that you can't dodge them unless they legitimately miss because of the weapon's awkward ammunition type. Megatron's is actually just a straight up beam that fires straight so he doesn't have that issue unlike characters such as Barricade, Jazz and some of Create-A-Bot's other Forms. I don't mean he can shoot faster than he can react, I mean the actual Bullet, or Beam in this case, is so fast that it's literally impossible to dodge unless you get out of the way of his aim before he shoots it.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

You do realize Megatron's Gun shoots so fast that no one in his own verse can react to it, right? Actually, almost everyone's Light Weapon (with the exception of Brawl, Ratchet and a couple of Create-A-Bot's Forms) shoots so fast that you can't dodge them unless they legitimately miss because of the weapon's awkward ammunition type. Megatron's is actually just a straight up beam that fires straight so he doesn't have that issue unlike characters such as Barricade, Jazz and some of Create-A-Bot's other Forms. I don't mean he can shoot faster than he can react, I mean the actual Bullet, or Beam in this case, is so fast that it's literally impossible to dodge unless you get out of the way of his aim before he shoots it.

Speed: Subsonic Movement speed and Supersonic+ Reaction and Flight speed (Comparable to his canon counterpart). Supersonic Flight speed (Comparable to Starscream)

Nothing about light speed atacks in his profile, and quincy has transonic atacks and reactions

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Speed: Subsonic Movement speed and Supersonic+ Reaction and Flight speed (Comparable to his canon counterpart). Supersonic Flight speed (Comparable to Starscream)

Nothing about light speed atacks in his profile, and quincy has transonic atacks and reactions

I didn't say it was light speed, just that it's literally impossible to dodge in the verse making it faster than anything else in the game.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I didn't say it was light speed, just that it's literally impossible to dodge in the verse making it faster than anything else in the game.

Well, them would just be supersonic at best still, quincy still can react faster them that

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Well, them would just be supersonic at best still, quincy still can react faster them that

How is he supposed to dodge something that someone equal to him in speed can't dodge?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

How is he supposed to dodge something that someone equal to him in speed can't dodge?

Speed equalized don't change reaction speed, It only equalized the traveling speed, trowing your self to the side still is not equalized, in other words, reaction speed is the one used to dodge, well, and not to mention is megatron speed that was turned into quincy one thanks to how speed equalization works