Why is Spider-Man (MCU) at Small Building Level?

[Lonkitt]

So there are two reasons this wiki puts him at Small Building (not counting his collpasing building feat which is mainly a lifting feat): Casually catching Winter Soldier's arm, and kicking Giant Man hard enough to make him sidestep. However, when I look at Capt's profile (because Bucky is apparently comparable), there are only Wall Level feats. Then there's Capt's MCB scaling, which doesn't apply back to Bucky, and back to Spidey. I could get behind the Giant Man feat, but aside from that, I don't see that much on Small Building Level MCU Spider-Man. If someone could clear this up, that'd be great. Thanks.

 

[Antvasima]

You can ask Spinosaurus75DinosaurFa to comment here if you wish.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

I think it is from Quicksilver. Who moved people at Hypersonic speeds resulting in 9-A, which scale to Cap and others.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Should the 9-A MCU profile pages be updated to clarify this, or would it be better to downgrade them to 9-B?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Cap scales to Spider-Man. Spider-Man supported a falling building, held a ferry together, staggered the Multi-City Block level Ant-Man, and supported a falling jet bridge that weighs 27 tonnes. That should be enough for Small Building level.

Quicksilver is also 9-A by moving and punching people at supersonic speeds, AidenBrooks999 is right.

 

[Lonkitt]

A few questions on that too if you don't mind. A) What makes Giant Man MCB? B) Didn't Iron Man say in Homecoming that Cap could put Spidey down easily if he wanted to? (Maybe that doesn't have to do with strength and more with Skill) And C) The Spider-Man ferry feat is more of a feat for his webbing as it was "98%" successful in keeping the ferry together. He himself didn't ferry pull it together.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Giant-Man is MCB by fighting Iron Man.

Cap defeating Spidey is a combination of strength and skill. They are comparable strength-wise, I think.

True, but his durability stll has to be considerably high to stop himself from being ripped apart. I can do a quick calc if you wish.

 

[Antvasima]

@S75DF

Can you better clarify why Spider-Man is 9-A in his profile page?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Pulling a ferry, supporting a collapsed building, survived the impact of a jetbridge falling from around 4 metres and scaling from Quicksilver.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, but visitors to his profile page must understand this, so we do not get repeat discussions about the issue.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Should I preferably calculate those feats to make it clearer?

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know if it is necessary. For the moment, just make the explanation in his profile clearer to understand.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Ok. I have to go to sleep now, though. I'll handle it tmr.

 

[Antvasima]

Alright.

 

[Lonkitt]

Alright. Thanks. If you could, Spinosaurus, could you PM me when you have this clearer explanations/calcs?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

@Antvasima Can you unlock the Captain America (Marvel Cinematic Universe) page? I think we should change the AP explanation to (Comparable to Spider-Ma and Quicksilver), and remove the Wall level feats to avoid confusion.

 

[Therefir]

Quicksilver needs a better explanation for his stats, moving people at supersonic speeds does not mean anything without a calculation.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...nosaurFan/Quicksilver_moves_Hawkeye_and_a_kid

Here you go.

 

[Therefir]

Now it just need an evaluation.

And what about the calc of Quicksilver punching Cap? It was not accepted?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

It wasn't accepted.

 

[Antvasima]

If the Quicksilver calculation has not been evaluated, we obviously cannot use it yet. Scaling Captain America from Spider-Man should be fine though.

 

[Lonkitt]

Still unsure why Cap is at Small Building as well when the calcs to support it are wall.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Cap is Small Building level via scaling to Spider-Man and Quicksilver.

I know the calcs are confusing people, I suggest we remove them from the profile.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

If the Quicksilver calculation has not been evaluated, we obviously cannot use it yet. Scaling Captain America from Spider-Man should be fine though.

Actually, Spidey has no 9-A feats (Like, even the ant man feat... Ant Man is 8-A so...)

So all the scaling is from Quicksilver.

And the calc is pretty straightforward and respect the rules. So is ok for me

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Cap is Small Building level via scaling to Spider-Man and Quicksilver.
I know the calcs are confusing people, I suggest we remove them from the profile.

Bit feats like the 9-B+ and being above the 9-B one are good for supporting the 9-A ranking

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Ah ok. So you accept the 9-A Quicksilver calc?

And Spider-Man is 9-A for pulling a ferry and being hit by hundreds of tons of rubble.

 

[Gemmysaur]

What makes Giant Man MCB?

He held Rhodey down that his War Machine couldn't fly, with one hand. Iron Man armors, of which WM is part of, uses the same repulsors for combat in flight.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that we should keep the 9-B calculation links.

However, we likely have to downgrade the characters from 9-A to 9-B if the calculations that support 9-A rankings have not been accepted.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

9-A Spiderman is fine. He supported around 4,000 tons when he held the ferry.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

AidenBrooks999 accepted the Quicksilver one, see above in this thread.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Captain America is 9-A for harming Spider-Man and would have easily defeated him, as stated by Iron Man. Captain America is also comparable to Quicksilver as well.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that seems fine then.

 

[Lonkitt]

We need to put up some calcs for Spider-Man imo.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I have done some, but they have to be evaluated.

 

[Lonkitt]

I have done some, but they have to be evaluated.

Is the Giant Man feat going to be done?

 

[Camilopezo]

Capitan America is not 9-A.

He defeats spiderman with skill, not with physical strength.

In physical strength Spider-man is far superior.


The Captain America is a perfect example of a character who can beat a guy with a superior tier, only with skill.

 

[ByAsura]

No, at several points in the fight Captain America showed comparable strength to Spider-Man, literally equaling his force in a tug of war session.

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[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Fhfhghghg is right.

 

[Antvasima]

Should we lock this thread.

 

[ByAsura]

The OP has been answered, as has remaining questions, so i'd say yes.