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Unless someone moves this to Content Revision again
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Why Is Goku Black Only 3-A????
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make a 2-a dbx downgrade while ur at it
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That's for another time
ZetaMarishi
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I never heard anything about DBX being downgradable.
DBH? Yeah, but not DBX.
DBH? Yeah, but not DBX.
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Anyway
Note: We consider the universes in Dragon Ball alternate time-spaces relative to each other, hence why Zen'ō is rated as 2-C, despite the events in the Goku Black Saga showing parallel timelines encompassing the whole of the multiverse.
The reason for this is that Universe 7 by itself has already been shown to contain parallel space-time continuums within its globe, such as the Room of Spirit and Time, which is still affected by time travel; which proves that the new timelines can encompass other space-times as well, and thus the events in the Future Trunks Saga don't prove anything in the way of the universes being physically connected.
God, that's so wrong.
Counting the ROSAT as its own space-time when is just a random planet sized dimension where time is modified is laughable for one.
Then Future Zeno wouldn't have been a thing.
Note: We consider the universes in Dragon Ball alternate time-spaces relative to each other, hence why Zen'ō is rated as 2-C, despite the events in the Goku Black Saga showing parallel timelines encompassing the whole of the multiverse.
The reason for this is that Universe 7 by itself has already been shown to contain parallel space-time continuums within its globe, such as the Room of Spirit and Time, which is still affected by time travel; which proves that the new timelines can encompass other space-times as well, and thus the events in the Future Trunks Saga don't prove anything in the way of the universes being physically connected.
God, that's so wrong.
Counting the ROSAT as its own space-time when is just a random planet sized dimension where time is modified is laughable for one.
Then Future Zeno wouldn't have been a thing.
ZetaMarishi
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Something something since the universes all break off with a timeline split they're not low 1-c something something it's dragon ball not dmc something something wank.
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dont we need more proof for this?
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Just move it to content revision and this can get some attention.
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noones gonna read threw 3 pages of this
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I asked DDM to comment here btw
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There have been CRTs of over 11 pages, so why not
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Seriously speaking this will need a lot of thought though.....I have no idea how to react or approach this.....
ZetaMarishi
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Ease of passing upgrades.The hells dmc gotta do with this.....
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^^^^^^^
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There are tons of CRTs which are turned to downgrade threads, so
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ZetaMarishi
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You know I'm right.
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Everything is all over the place. A new CRT with all thoughts organized would be better honestly.
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Going by Herms translation of what Whis said:
Whis: "Manipulating time to travel between the past and future is a serious felony. Time is only supposed to flow in one, single direction. If you turn back time and change the past, even if you only, say, pick a single flower, it affects subsequent history. Cities and even entire cultures could be greatly altered, and ultimately, it might result in a planet being erased from the universe."
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Statement is in the 2nd spoiler at the bottom within the [Future Trunks Arc] section of the post, dunno why he didn't include eps numbers lol.
But anyways, What Whis says here is straightforward. Timelines in dbs only move one direction, and any alterations causes massive changes. If dbz initially implied there were multiple seperate space-times within a Macrocosm, which were very vague to begin with, that long has been retconned by this statement.
Just to talk about the Buu saga statement that gets posted around a lot, about the afterlife being a place with no time. I believe people are talking that statement out of context, after rereading the Buu saga I'm convinced what Goku was referring to was simply his undead body and how it doesn't age and how it is more energy efficient in handling ssj3 than being alive, nothing to do with different flows of time.
Whis: "Manipulating time to travel between the past and future is a serious felony. Time is only supposed to flow in one, single direction. If you turn back time and change the past, even if you only, say, pick a single flower, it affects subsequent history. Cities and even entire cultures could be greatly altered, and ultimately, it might result in a planet being erased from the universe."
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Statement is in the 2nd spoiler at the bottom within the [Future Trunks Arc] section of the post, dunno why he didn't include eps numbers lol.
But anyways, What Whis says here is straightforward. Timelines in dbs only move one direction, and any alterations causes massive changes. If dbz initially implied there were multiple seperate space-times within a Macrocosm, which were very vague to begin with, that long has been retconned by this statement.
Just to talk about the Buu saga statement that gets posted around a lot, about the afterlife being a place with no time. I believe people are talking that statement out of context, after rereading the Buu saga I'm convinced what Goku was referring to was simply his undead body and how it doesn't age and how it is more energy efficient in handling ssj3 than being alive, nothing to do with different flows of time.
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Uh, so, what exactly is going on here? A downgrade to 3-A or some upgrade to Low 1-C?
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Hmm
But after 4 years of miserable downplay....we kinda deserved the relatively peaceful upgrades......
The original 3A/Low2C upgrades 2 yrs back had went on for over months over 5-6 CRTs in total....it was a war.
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Former lmao
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Looks like both
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Going by Herms translation of what Whis said:
Whis: "Manipulating time to travel between the past and future is a serious felony. Time is only supposed to flow in one, single direction. If you turn back time and change the past, even if you only, say, pick a single flower, it affects subsequent history. Cities and even entire cultures could be greatly altered, and ultimately, it might result in a planet being erased from the universe."
Fact Checker (update: Ep.51) • Kanzenshuu
Statement is in the 2nd spoiler at the bottom within the [Future Trunks Arc] section of the post, dunno why he didn't include eps numbers lol.
But anyways, What Whis says here is straightforward. Timelines in dbs only move one direction, and any alterations causes massive changes. If dbz initially implied there were multiple seperate space-times within a Macrocosm, which were very vague to begin with, that long has been retconned by this statement.
Just to talk about the Buu saga statement that gets posted around a lot, about the afterlife being a place with no time. I believe people are talking that statement out of context, after rereading the Buu saga I'm convinced what Goku was referring to was simply his undead body and how it doesn't age and how it is more energy efficient in handling ssj3 than being alive, nothing to do with different flows of time.
ZetaMarishi
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Probably a downgrade to EVERYONE (including Zeno) to 3-A in the anime. Manga Zeno remains Low 2-C.
No one would possibly accept an upgrade to Low 1-C, because the argument will likely turn into "The universes don't have separate time so they don't count"
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Low 1-C is because?
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Technically both....one wants low1C....other wants 3A....
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Literally me^
ZetaMarishi
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Because of the different universes technically being seen as different time-spaces, and all being contained in one higher timeline.
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TL;DR the timeline encompassing the 12 universes technically qualifies for Low 1-C as is.
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i already agrued that at best it can be Low 2-C
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that wouldn't exist when they would be 3-A tho
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Ring wasn't destroyed, so Time Machine returning to the future timeline wasn't PIS
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anime zeno, yes, manga zeno, no, the time ring was erased, which means timeline being destroyed
ZetaMarishi
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That's not my argument, that's the reason some people think Low 1-C.
That wouldn't be 3-A, though, either.
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