Why Is Goku Black Only 3-A????

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

It's not that strange, but it would mean Low 1-C so.......

Great!!! Now we turn it into a upgrade thread!!
For the infamous and vaunted 5D upgrades........

 

[ZetaMarishi]

But they forget that range is power for Omnipresent guys.....

If they're attributing his ability to enter the present timeline to the portal from the time machine/time ring, then he's not actually touching the time part of space-time. Hence still 3-A. Pretty powerful 3-A, but still 3-A.

This is why 3-A and Low 2-C are kinda dumb imo, but if they're thinking that, then that's the conclusion I have to come to on how this site sees that feat.

 

[Planck69]

Great!!! Now we turn it into a upgrade thread!!
For the infamous and vaunted 5D upgrades........

Of course, this assumes that you can prove that the multiverse has a timeline onto which the lesser space-time continuums are embedded. If you can then this timeline would be Low 1-C.

Would anyone scale even if it were true?

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

He did it on manga, the time ring got yeeted

Hold on... did manga zeno, after destroying trunk's timeline destroy only 1 time ring?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

A Multiverse is made of more space time continuums. You can't get more of them cloned with a time paradox if said time paradox is in one of them

Well DB certainly doesn't treat them as norm....well this part of dimensional stuff is still a bit out there for me....so I am just throwing darts in the dark.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Hold on... did manga zeno, after destroying trunk's timeline destroy only 1 time ring?

Yes? thats is the reason that I said that Zeno caps at Low 2-C if we only use feats

 

[BOEGVELD]

Tbh all the 12 universes can perfectly be cloned via a simple time paradox in just one of the universes, meaning that they do.

Everything can perfectly happen. Without evidence this is just a baseless claim though.

 

[ZetaMarishi]

Of course, this assumes that you can prove that the multiverse has a timeline onto which the lesser space-time continuums are embedded. If you can then this timeline would be Low 1-C.

Would anyone scale even if it were true?

Probably Zeno, possibly Heroes/Xenoverse. I think that'd be it, though. That being said, it's not proven, so shrug.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Everything can perfectly happen. Without evidence this is just a baseless claim though.

Based on? Is how space-time works

 

[Greenshifter]

Of course, this assumes that you can prove that the multiverse has a timeline onto which the lesser space-time continuums are embedded. If you can then this timeline would be Low 1-C.

Would anyone scale even if it were true?

Ehhhh pretty sure this is accepted. Are you sure that’s the implications of the existence of a “Hypertimeline” though?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Of course, this assumes that you can prove that the multiverse has a timeline onto which the lesser space-time continuums are embedded. If you can then this timeline would be Low 1-C.

Would anyone scale even if it were true?

Isn't there a rule for such structures that the encompassing timeline should Inaccessibly transcend the inner tiimelines or it isn't 5D just higher kind of 4D??

 

[Planck69]

Ehhhh pretty sure this is accepted. Are you sure that’s the implications of the existence of a “Hypertimeline” though?

For the same reason a regular timeline is the equivalent of an uncountably infinite number of "snapshots" of 3-dimensional universes, this "hypertimeline" would be the equivalent of an uncountably infinite number of "snapshots" 4-dimensional space-time continuums i.e. Low 1-C.

 

[BOEGVELD]

Based on? Is how space-time works

What?

 

[manu_zarri]

I actually suggest 3-A cosmology for the main multiverse, but Low 2-C would be Low 2-C or 2-C

 

[Planck69]

Isn't there a rule for such structures that the encompassing timeline should Inaccessibly transcend the inner tiimelines or it isn't 5D just higher kind of 4D??

I mean, it'd be Low 1-C as long as the regular space-time continuums are bound within this timestream, the way I understood it.

I'd sooner get given the business by Azathoth than attempt to upgrade Dragon Ball with this though.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I actually suggest 3-A cosmology for the main multiverse, but Low 2-C would be Low 2-C or 2-C

They don't have 2-C feats, the best Zeno feat was Low 2-C, at least on manga, because the time ring got erased, but the time ring wasnt erasing on anime, which means that Zeno feat wasnt even 4-D

 

[StrymULTRA]

What?

I already told so.

In a multiverse there are tons of space-time continnums right? If you paradox one of them, you close just that one. If DBS universes are each one their own space-time, then why paradoxing Universe 7 brought to the cloning of all the 12 of them?

 

[sanicspood]

uni+ is 4d tho

 

[Bernkastelll]

uni+ is 4d tho

Zeno doesnt have 4-D feats in the anime, the time ring wasnt erased, which means that the timeline wasnt erased, but in manga, the time ring was destroyed, so, Manga zeno has 4-D feats, but Anime zeno only has 3-D shit

 

[manu_zarri]

They don't have 2-C feats, the best Zeno feat was Low 2-C, at least on manga, because the time ring got erased, but the time ring wasnt erasing on anime, which means that Zeno feat wasnt even 4-D

Ok since IZ was affecting the main timeline, here is taked him being one with space time, so we can simply assume he was becoming the multiverses in both dimensions and futures and give him Low 2-C to 2-C

 

[sanicspood]

Zeno doesnt have 4-D feats in the anime, the time ring wasnt erased, which means that the timeline wasnt erased

didnt he erase like 6 universes before?

 

[Bernkastelll]

didnt he erase like 6 universes before?

thats still 3-D

 

[ZetaMarishi]

Ok since IZ was affecting the main timeline, here is taked him being one with space time, so we can simply assume he was becoming the multiverses in both dimensions and futures and give him Low 2-C to 2-C

Members of staff argued it was because of the time ring/time machine portal IZ could travel through time to affect the present. If that's the case, then it's not any sort of Tier 2 feat, just a very high 3-A one.

 

[sanicspood]

thats still 3-D

if u think they share a space time yea it would be 3d

 

[Bernkastelll]

Ok since IZ was affecting the main timeline, here is taked him being one with space time, so we can simply assume he was becoming the multiverses in both dimensions and futures and give him Low 2-C to 2-C

I dont think so, the time ring wasnt erased on anime as far I remember, which means that Zamasu didnt rlly become a timeline and zeno didnt erased a timeline on anime, maybe only the 3-D matter of it

 

[StrymULTRA]

Ok since IZ was affecting the main timeline, here is taked him being one with space time, so we can simply assume he was becoming the multiverses in both dimensions and futures and give him Low 2-C to 2-C

Nothing remotely stated in the jap dub that he became one with the space-time tbh.

Zeno doesnt have 4-D feats in the anime, the time ring wasnt erased, which means that the timeline wasnt erased, but in manga, the time ring was destroyed, so, Manga zeno has 4-D feats, but Anime zeno only has 3-D shit

Them returning to the timeline just makes thing worse as well.

 

[VinnyXD]

It's not that strange, but it would mean Low 1-C so...

Low 1-C sounds good lol

 

[Bernkastelll]

Nothing remotely stated in the jap dub that he became one with the space-time tbh.

Them returning to the timeline just makes thing worse as well.

Exactly, thats true

 

[manu_zarri]

Members of staff argued it was because of the time ring/time machine portal IZ could travel through time to affect the present. If that's the case, then it's not any sort of Tier 2 feat, just a very high 3-A one.

i mean, then how Low 2-C still exist for Zamasu? it comed from it for what i remember

 

[sanicspood]

can someone just make a downgrade thread already

 

[ZetaMarishi]

i mean, then how Low 2-C still exist for Zamasu? it comed from it for what i remember

It doesn't.

 

[Bernkastelll]

i mean, then how Low 2-C still exist for Zamasu? it comed from it for what i remember

Because the profiles are wrong, this is what we are discussing, DB will need revisions, Zamasu feat is not tier 2 if the conversation here is right

 

[manu_zarri]

can anyone explain how the space that holds three universes would be 5D? like it would if they are 4D, but here are 3D, so it would be Low 2-C?

 

[StrymULTRA]

can someone just make a downgrade thread already

I mean, this already is, so why making a further move lol

 

[manu_zarri]

Because the profiles are wrong, this is what we are discussing, DB will need revisions, Zamasu feat is not tier 2 if the conversation here is right

RIP, no more wanks

 

[sanicspood]

I mean, this already is, so why making a further move lol

not really, if u want something actually done we should make a full fledge thread about this

 

[manu_zarri]

I mean, this already is, so why making a further move lol

isn't this QA?

 

[sanicspood]

like no one's gonna see this if we discuss it here

 

[ZetaMarishi]

Yeah, this thread was moved to QA.

I bet some people are super ******* psyched for this thread having become a thing.

 

[StrymULTRA]

not really, if u want something actually done we should make a full fledge thread about this

I mean, let's discuss it here then let's make the actual thread to bring all the points in one post