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Why doe Gogeta super saiyan 4 and super Gogeta gets downpayed

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Both, SSJ4 Gogeta can be millions of times stronger than SSJ Gogeta and still be Multi-Solar System level
 
I forgot a lot about GT tbh, but didn't Omega Shenron create an energy ball which would gradually corrupt and destroy the entire universe, up to the kaioshin realm? And didn't ssj4 Gogeta counter it with ease?
 
Yes but at the time the Dragon Ball universe was only depicted as being four galaxies large and the attack would have corrupted and destroyed it gradually over an unspecified amount of time
 
Actually, a DB universe was never specifically depicted as being 4 galaxies large. It could be interpreted as 4 regions or sets of galaxies and I think DBS has put that controversy to bed already.
 
But yes, I agree. Destroying a universe over an unspecified amount of time can't be quantified correctly.
 
Myriadofmemes said:
Destroying a universe over time is unquantifiable.
^ Indeed. Which is why a lot of characters who are threats to the universe aren't even in Tier 3 and are scaled from lower feats.
 
What a lot of people don't understand is that being stronger than a solar system buster doesn't make you multi-solar system level, there is massive space in between solar systems, to destroy multiple requires far more energy than just destroying one. This is why buu saga characters aren't multi-solar system level cause the gap in between destroying a single solar system and multiple, is 1.008 trillion times. In other words you have to be 1.008 trillion times stronger than a solar system buster to be multi-solar system level.

Only reason gt is multi-solar system level is cause they scale of anime buu destroying a galaxy over a period of time.

Also Omega destroying a universe was an over time thing, and not instant.
 
Tapionjr said:
So DBS Goku is 1.008 trillion times stronger than Gogeta, okay, it doesn't make ANY SENSE.
Actually, it does, since they said that the battle beetween Goku and Beerus could destroy the universe, which never happened in GT (and GT is not a sequel of Super anyway).
 
Depends on what version of dbs goku you are talking about, base goku and above are over sextillions of times above gogeta, ultra instinct goku is infinitely above gogeta.

Writers don't write their characters by fact checking how much more powerful a certain feat makes one character over the other, but we do and by our tiering system, this is what it is.

Gogeta has no feats above multi-solar system level.
 
In GT they didn't destroy the universe mainly because Gogeta SSJ4 didn't find an opponent, just a shitty dragon.

Goku GT SSJ3 <= Goku DBZ SSJ3.

Goku GT SSJ3 <<< Omega Shenron | Goku DBS SSJ3 <<<<< Beerus.

Goku GT SSJ4 >> Goku DBZ SSJ3 | Goku GT SSJ4 <<<<< Beerus.

Goku GT SSJ4 < Omega Shenron | Goku DBS SSG <<<<Beerus

Omega Shenron <<<< Beerus (OBVIOUS fact)

Goku GT SSJ4 <<< Goku DBS SSG.

SSJ4 is weak, we agree, but if you're doing Gogeta, things change.

Gogeta SSJ4 >>>> Goku GT SSJ4

Gogeta SSJ4 >>>> Omega Shenron

Gogeta SSJ4 <= Goku DBS SSG (we are not speaking about Goku, we are speaking about Gogeta itself)

and of course, Gogeta SSJ4 <<<<< Beerus.

And, of course. Gogeta SSJ4 <<<<< Vegetto Blue.

SSG Goku is stronger than Gogeta, but no 1.008 trillion times.
 
Read our Attack Potency page, gogeta is multi-solar system level, dbs goku is universe level, look at the high to low end ration on the furthest right of the attack potency page.

The gap for multi-solar system level is 561.41 million times, in other words to be galaxy level you have to be 561.41 million times stronger than someone who is multi-solar system level.

The gap for galaxy level is 644 times, so you have to be 644 times stronger than a galaxy buster to be multi-galaxy level, then the gap for multi-galaxy level is 8.7x10^23 times, so you have to be 8.7x10^23 times stronger than a multi-galaxy buster to be universe level, and goku is above baseline universe level, you understand how ridiculously above gogeta goku is now?

Anyway i should probably close this, since the issue has been addressed.
 
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