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I think I need to re-read the manga, because I was pretty sure it was because Incursio was immune to cold and Esdeath's time stop was mainly ice based
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Whitebeard vs Esdeath
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Schnee One wrote If you're saying "WB Can resist the time Stop by resisting Ice" 1. Time is Stopped so WB can't use his Devil Fruit to make a quake to break it and 2. Ice that freezes time itself needs proofvthat someone can resist that, outside of people who resist actual time Stop
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Whitebeard FRA, plus his quakes negate durability so if they hit Esdeath is getting his guts turned mush.
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I would appreciate a couple counterpoints please
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Gonna need to hold up for that since I go on break in a few minutes.
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Thank you, take your time
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@Schnee you didn't. Eminiteable did.
Brain is as if not more vital than heart. And he just lolnoped that injury, rekt Sakazuki, fought Kurohige and only died after being shot to death by his crew, saying a few words before actually dying.
He can very well dissipate the clouds with his airquakes.
I don't remember what I haven't watched ovo.
@Eminiteable Kuzan did a Katakuri there.
Brain is as if not more vital than heart. And he just lolnoped that injury, rekt Sakazuki, fought Kurohige and only died after being shot to death by his crew, saying a few words before actually dying.
He can very well dissipate the clouds with his airquakes.
I don't remember what I haven't watched ovo.
@Eminiteable Kuzan did a Katakuri there.
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I mean, that says more sboult the weakness is the timestop than the strength of the ice. If the timestop can be billed by resisting ice, that's a legitimate weakness.
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I thought he got his skin and top skull destroyed, if he survived his brain getting destroyed, I concede.
Disapating the clouds is also a good point
Thing is. Esdeath has no problem using time Stop if she can't avoid an attack, so I'm wondering what happens if she's met with something she can't avoid I.E. a massive quake she can't dodge
Disapating the clouds is also a good point
Thing is. Esdeath has no problem using time Stop if she can't avoid an attack, so I'm wondering what happens if she's met with something she can't avoid I.E. a massive quake she can't dodge
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Would you believe me if I told you a guy lost a 1/3 of his brain from a grenade and lived? Not even joking, not trying WB obv.The Calaca said:
@Cal I mean, Ice that freezes time is a tad bit above normal ice.
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Okay so let's go over each point Schnee presented.
Esdeath one shots.
The same could be said for Whitebeard and a hell of a lot easier than Esdeath's method. Whitebeard always uses quakes in combat, which ignores durability by stacking organs. I also have doubts of Esdeath being able to one shot Edward right away, this is the same dude who fought an enitre war with a deadly disease, has had organs straight up vaporized. (His heart most likely got injured considering Akainu pumped his chest full of magma and later his stomach.) Had half his head blown off, had a heart attack while facing against Akainu and had a massive hole melted in his stomach.
Esdeath time stops.
Not to use a strawman but Esdeath doesn't use time stop in character. The probability of Whitebeard one shotting her with a quake is a lot higher than Esdeath using time stop from the get go. This is essentially a battle of who does what first and Whitebeard starts off with durability negation.
Whitebeard isn't resistant to ice projectiles.
Well yeah but not a lot of characters are. Not that it matters much considering Whitebeard can just take out the projectiles with a quake like he did with Kuzan. Also he can make quakes with a thought so there goes Esdeath's range option which would force her to CQC which isn't a good idea with a man with precog, force fields, durability negation and way higher lifting strength.
Esdeath one shots.
The same could be said for Whitebeard and a hell of a lot easier than Esdeath's method. Whitebeard always uses quakes in combat, which ignores durability by stacking organs. I also have doubts of Esdeath being able to one shot Edward right away, this is the same dude who fought an enitre war with a deadly disease, has had organs straight up vaporized. (His heart most likely got injured considering Akainu pumped his chest full of magma and later his stomach.) Had half his head blown off, had a heart attack while facing against Akainu and had a massive hole melted in his stomach.
Esdeath time stops.
Not to use a strawman but Esdeath doesn't use time stop in character. The probability of Whitebeard one shotting her with a quake is a lot higher than Esdeath using time stop from the get go. This is essentially a battle of who does what first and Whitebeard starts off with durability negation.
Whitebeard isn't resistant to ice projectiles.
Well yeah but not a lot of characters are. Not that it matters much considering Whitebeard can just take out the projectiles with a quake like he did with Kuzan. Also he can make quakes with a thought so there goes Esdeath's range option which would force her to CQC which isn't a good idea with a man with precog, force fields, durability negation and way higher lifting strength.
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The first and Third Point are both good, the second one I take issue with (Though it's not a Strawman argument)
Esdeath doesn't lead with time Stop to kill an opponent, that is true, she does however use her time Stop to avoid an attack she can't avoid, she has used Time Stop every time she was about to get hit due to this, she is a ******, but she's not an idiot, and she will not purposely take a hit she knows she can't avoid otherwise, especially from a country wide quake.
Esdeath doesn't lead with time Stop to kill an opponent, that is true, she does however use her time Stop to avoid an attack she can't avoid, she has used Time Stop every time she was about to get hit due to this, she is a ******, but she's not an idiot, and she will not purposely take a hit she knows she can't avoid otherwise, especially from a country wide quake.
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EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH After thinking it over WBs stamina most likely results in him surviving a stab wound and using a quake to one shot.
Whitebeard FRA
Whitebeard FRA
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That's something, shouldn't Whitebeard have High pain tolerance on his profile?
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3/4 characters on this wiki should
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Similar to Superhuman physical characteristics then, Whitebeard should definitely have it added tho considering his feats.
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You can add it I think, considering his stamina section already makes it clear.
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Dammit, if only 6-B Kamen Rider is a thing i can throw them against this two lel
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well, whitebeard surely have advantage in AoE and firepower. Esdeath's ice barrier would be shattered instantly via internal vibration. even if Esdeath use mahapadma what will she do after? freeze him? stab his heart? drop a gigantic ice boulder on him? whitebeard have experienced all of them and still alive
vote for WB
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WB FRA.
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