Which verses can stop Yhwach on his conquest for domination?

[Catzlaflame]

Classroom of the elite: he negs

Naruto: uhhhhh I have no clue where the wiki scales naruto

chainsaw man: he negs

Higurashi: yhwach=

 

[Confluctor]

If he had touma arm could it change anything?

Well... I don't recall touma tanking soul hax before. So, don't think it will do anything against his passive soul hax?

ye, thats it, all superheroes (and even literally normal characters) can have 1-A (or higher tiers) scalings

tbf... Yeah they kinda do lmao.

 

[Nierre]

Yhwach would join the orange fanta

LOL

 

[Regidian]

Nasuverse: he can't

 

[Bernkastelll]

Classroom of the elite: he negs

Naruto: uhhhhh I have no clue where the wiki scales naruto

He probably stops at Ayanokoji because Ayanokoji is too edgy and psycho

 

[Loyd]

OP stated characters yhwach beats can use the defeated characters abilities even if thr smurfs/tier 1, idk if accelsrator has soul resist but could yhwach take on the gods tiers if he had angel wing vectors or imagine breaker? idk anything about the verse

 

[Lormac_CC]

Magi: Gets stomped in first layer
SDS: Stomps

 

[Confluctor]

could yhwach take on the gods tiers if he had angel wing vectors or imagine breaker?

Imagine breaker, yes. But the other... It has limits. Accel's shields can be bypassed by Aiwass, who imo is at the top of the food chain in Toaru.

accelsrator has soul resist

Hasn't shown it. He has his own soul manip, but don't think its potent enough compared to the other guy.

Tho Accel is a pretty NLF character, so eh ig a case can be made for his soul resist lol?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Soul Crush has a vector last time I checked (its direction is downwards) so it'd be more reflected than not

 

[Confluctor]

Not familiar with the verse other than a few small things, but how does the soul crush work? And is it physical in any way/form/shape?

 

[Bernkastelll]

, but how does the soul crush work?

A strong soul can destroy weaker souls with their presence

And is it physical in any way/form/shape?

i dont think so, its their soul pressures, like, their existences

 

[Nicetoderp]

Kamen Rider verse.

Should be able to beat everyone that isn't tier 2-C or above. Then get passive to hell and back by everyone with Decade EE, plot, fate hax, with type 2 and 4 Acausality and type 8 immortality that work almost like High Godly. Baraku that neg everything and everyone in the verse, neg pass resistance to resistance neg that bypass resistance neg and neg thing like Immortality as well, he also resistance to every power in his own verse bar Oma fuckery. Oma is basically all of the above + another layer of resistances and resistance neg.

 

[Confluctor]

A strong soul can destroy weaker souls with their presence

i dont think so, its their soul pressures, like, their existences

Hm, thanks.

So, how would it have vectors, I wonder

 

[Bernkastelll]

So, how would it have vectors, I wonder

I don't think that it has a vector, is more like a matter of presence

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

If they are pressed downwards then it has a direction and thus a vector

 

[YungManzi]

I don't think that it has a vector, is more like a matter of presence

It can physically destroy the environment, it definitely has a vector.

 

[Bernkastelll]

well, i dunno how vector works, so, perhaps

 

[Loyd]

Yhwach with fate manip can sorta bypass defenses, an attack orihime blocked with her causality shield hit ichigo anyways because lol fate, idk how it'd interact with accel vector shield its seems smurfy iirc so likely not

 

[YungManzi]

well, i dunno how vector works, so, perhaps

Vectors are just directions in space iirc. So in other words does Soul Crush travel? Which it does.

 

[Confluctor]

Then if Accel can react to it in time, he should have no problem imo

 

[Bernkastelll]

Then if Accel can react to it in time, he should have no problem imo

I dont think that he could react in time, as it is an Area of Effect around the user body, which the range can varie

 

[YungManzi]

Vector shield is passive and tier 1 smurfy.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I dont think that he could react in time, as it is an Area of Effect around the user body, which the range can varie

and the profiles treats the soul crush as passive as well

Overwhelming Aura (Spiritual pressure can passively induce ailments ranging from paralysis to fear inducement

 

[Loyd]

well Yhwach is technically fighting the weakest to strongest so i presume he bodies touma first then uses his imagine breaker on accelerator vector shield can IB bypass it?

 

[Bernkastelll]

well Yhwach is technically fighting the weakest to strongest so i presume he bodies touma first then uses his imagine breaker on accelerator vector shield can IB bypass it?

I dont think that he can use 11-D stuff

 

[Loyd]

Also when you say he absorbs who ever he beats does it mean he can use thr power even if its a smurf?

Yeah, even if it's Tier 1 hax

I dont think that he can use 11-D stuff

just for the sake of this thread OP stated he can.

 

[YungManzi]

Yhwach couldn't coexist with imagine breaker.... Y'know... being an entirely supernatural being.

That's literally impossible iirc. IB would nerf him and possibly negate him out of existence.

 

[Bernkastelll]

just for the sake of this thread OP stated he can.

Oh, aight

 

[Bernkastelll]

Yhwach couldn't coexist with imagine breaker.... Y'know... being an entirely supernatural being.

That's literally impossible iirc. IB would nerf him and possibly negate him out of existence.

does Touma have a soul? if yes, shouldnt it also negate his soul?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

does Touma have a soul? if yes, shouldnt it also negate his soul?

Thats not how it works

 

[YungManzi]

Souls probably exist in the pure world, or maybe Touma doesn't have one idk... I'm not a toaru guy.

But I was told a while ago that as a supernatural being having IB would literally be terrible in terms of making you stronger. Due to it passively negging everything about you that's supernatural.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Thats not how it works

then how does it works?

 

[Confluctor]

does Touma have a soul? if yes, shouldnt it also negate his soul?

Touma had a soul. And no, why would it negate soul?

What supernatural essentially means is powers/something that doesn't exist normally. PPowers exist in Toaru because of the sisters and certain waves that allows these guys to manipulate their reality. Magic exists because they need to ""trade"" something for it. So that's why it's supernatural. Soul, on the other hand, like mind and body is more "natural" aka "normal".

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

then how does it works?

Souls that were not touched/changed by any supernatural influence are a natural phenomena in toaru. Stuff like disembodied souls and the like are the issue and will be negated, i.e Yhwach would die

 

[Bernkastelll]

Souls that were not touched/changed by any supernatural influence are a natural phenomena in toaru. Stuff like disembodied souls and the like are the issue and will be negated, i.e Yhwach would die

but Yhwach is not a disembodied soul, he is a Quincy, which means that he has a physical body

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

but Yhwach is not a disembodied soul, he is a Quincy, which means that he has a physical body

He is a supernatural being, thus he dies

 

[Bernkastelll]

He is a supernatural being, thus he dies

Why he is a supernatural being in toaru terms?

 

[YungManzi]

Touma had a soul. And no, why would it negate soul?

What supernatural essentially means is powers/something that doesn't exist normally. PPowers exist in Toaru because of the sisters and certain waves that allows these guys to manipulate their reality. Magic exists because they need to ""trade"" something for it. So that's why it's supernatural. Soul, on the other hand, like mind and body is more "natural" aka "normal".

Not quite, IB is connected to something called the "pure world" and if that thing doesn't conform to the standards of the "pure world" then it is considered supernatural.

I remember this from my shield hero vs touma debate. Which is why, despite Naofumi having Soul energy, Spirit energy, Magic Energy, and Natural Energy all as completely different sources, Touma could still negate all of them.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Because he is clearly not human or natural? Anything that isnt equal or not present in the backup world (which is a normal world with literally nothing supernatural) gets negated by IB

 

[Confluctor]

IB is connected to something called the "pure world" and if that thing doesn't conform to the standards of the "pure world" then it is considered supernatural.

Yeah I know. I tried to put it in a way that would be simpler to understand to someone who doesn't know the verse. Guess it didn't work