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When The Discussion Cries - New Forum

Tzimtzumim said:
I mean, the wording on "state of everything" is a bit weird; Creatorhood isn't "everything", but rather completely supersedes the differentiation between everything (as all of these differences, of that which determines an existence as "itself", are counted under restrictions).
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I called the state of everything because Creator as true nothingness without meaning/restrictions/name is an initial state of every creation with differentiation similar to this
Monadhood is literally just that; the existence which supersedes differentiation, to the extent where all differences are reduced to silence and unity.
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when restrictions define the meaning/name of it so every possible creation from Creator is just a lesser form of Creator that is defined by a restriction.


By the way, I didn't serious about that. I just wanna know an outline and what interpretation used for tier 0 since the context isn't straightforward for me like other 0 with Tao, Non-duality, Yin/Yang, Actus Purus (Actually, my interpretation inspired from Actus Purus when no restrictions is perfection and restrictions is imperfection) or Pleroma (Ein sof - SMT)
Nothingness is both empty and full. As well might ye say anything else of nothingness, as for instance, white is it, or black, or again, it is not, or it is. A thing that is infinite and eternal hath no qualities this nothingness or fullness we name the PLEROMA. Therein both thinking and being cease, since the eternal and infinite possess no qualities. In it no being is, for he then would be distinct from the pleroma, and would possess qualities which would distinguish him as something distinct from the pleroma.In the pleroma there is nothing and everything. It is quite fruitless to think about the pleroma, for this would mean self-dissolution.CREATURA is not in the pleroma, but in itself. The pleroma is both beginning and end of created beings. It pervadeth them, as the light of the sun everywhere pervadeth the air. Although the pleroma pervadeth altogether, yet hath created being no share thereof(...)"it is devoid of both 𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 and 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻, with it's purity dissolving the distinctions of 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝗮𝗺𝗲𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀, 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗢𝗻𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝘆, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗲𝘁𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗼𝘁𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗯𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴
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(also some of disqualification at a glance such as "Creators" = Many Creator) and interpretation take place. That's why High 1-A City of books is such a plot twist for me lol.
 
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ExcelsisBerny said:
Wdym?
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I saw the description about Oblivion in the old version of the cosmology, Oblivion is the nothingness that encompasses and beyond the whole hierarchy (that's close to High 1-A+ type 2) and makes state of boredom is considered as higher domain until it got CRT and become a background of layer instead as Nep.
 
ExcelsisBerny said:
That's literally absolute and utter nosense 💔

Wtf does "background of layer" even mean.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I complained about some Umineko stuff for quite some times now ever since the big revision we did, and it's time to do more than complaining. Thanks to anyone who helped, either directly or indirectly. Anyway, I know it'll obviously be a controversial thread, but since...
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Nekobako said:
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I complained about some Umineko stuff for quite some times now ever since the big revision we did, and it's time to do more than complaining. Thanks to anyone who helped, either directly or indirectly. Anyway, I know it'll obviously be a controversial thread, but since...
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Page? I'm definitely not reading allat
 
ExcelsisBerny said:
Page? I'm definitely not reading allat
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1st page
Feath is a Creator therefore her true self can't be used to scale Creators. However there's a possibily that the Great Witches and the Self Insert are riiiiight at the very last layer, even if Erika's statement is to be more "it's so ******* high it doesn't make a difference where they are"; meaning those in the City of Books could be seen as possibly High 1-B. Also Oblivion would likely scale to High 1-B as well, since it's the void background of existence.
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ExcelsisBerny said:
It’s crazy how much bull#### that weirdo managed to get accepted by literally lying in front of everyone.
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That was because there was only one knowledgeable of 07th expansion at the time plus people like QuasiYuri themself. Ovy didn't have as much influence over staff as QuasiYuri did so their arguments ended up on top.
 
I realized something about the the word "life and death" when it was described by a witch.

Is it literal meaning or it means "existing" and "not existing"?
Because I see that when the witches die, they will become a nothingness and came back to exist again when they come back to life.
 
Nekobako said:
I realized something about the the word "life and death" when it was described by a witch.

Is it literal meaning or it means "existing" and "not existing"?
Because I see that when the witches die, they will become a nothingness and came back to exist again when they come back to life.
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Yeah.
 
Nekobako said:
I realized something about the the word "life and death" when it was described by a witch.

Is it literal meaning or it means "existing" and "not existing"?
Because I see that when the witches die, they will become a nothingness and came back to exist again when they come back to life.
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yes, death for meta-beings is literally regression to nothingness.
they then re-develop their traits whenever it comes to "living".
 
Hi everyone. For those interested, I’m here to roughly lay out how I plan to divide the pages for the verse and the steps I intend to follow for restructuring it.

- - -

1. Page to explain the canon

This is essential. Many people question why works like Harem Royale are said to be canon to the franchise. We need a page that explains how the franchise’s general framework works and which works fall within Ryukishi07’s star system.

2. Page for physiology and hax

The amount of hax the Umineko characters have is absurd. We need an entire page to explain the dichotomy between the meta world and the human world, and how this relates to the baseline abilities of meta-entities in general.

3. Weapon profile for the Truths

After thinking it over, I ultimately decided to make a direct weapon profile for the Truths, something like Venuzdonoa’s profile on the wiki. This will be very useful for profiles in general.

4. Cosmology

Probably the most important and self-explanatory. We need to restructure the entire current cosmology blog, which contains interpretations that are far too old and outdated.

5. Character profiles

With this we arrive at the final part of the project: simply redoing the profiles on the wiki.

- - -

If anyone has suggestions, they can share them without any problem.
 
ExcelsisBerny said:
Hi everyone. For those interested, I’m here to roughly lay out how I plan to divide the pages for the verse and the steps I intend to follow for restructuring it.

- - -

1. Page to explain the canon

This is essential. Many people question why works like Harem Royale are said to be canon to the franchise. We need a page that explains how the franchise’s general framework works and which works fall within Ryukishi07’s star system.

2. Page for physiology and hax

The amount of hax the Umineko characters have is absurd. We need an entire page to explain the dichotomy between the meta world and the human world, and how this relates to the baseline abilities of meta-entities in general.

3. Weapon profile for the Truths

After thinking it over, I ultimately decided to make a direct weapon profile for the Truths, something like Venuzdonoa’s profile on the wiki. This will be very useful for profiles in general.

4. Cosmology

Probably the most important and self-explanatory. We need to restructure the entire current cosmology blog, which contains interpretations that are far too old and outdated.

5. Character profiles

With this we arrive at the final part of the project: simply redoing the profiles on the wiki.

- - -

If anyone has suggestions, they can share them without any problem.
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Isnt there is a Truth page already ?? Is it necessary to have a weapon profile
 
ExcelsisBerny said:
2. Page for physiology and hax

The amount of hax the Umineko characters have is absurd. We need an entire page to explain the dichotomy between the meta world and the human world, and how this relates to the baseline abilities of meta-entities in general.
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Do you have some sandbox about this?
 
ExcelsisBerny said:
2. Page for physiology and hax

The amount of hax the Umineko characters have is absurd. We need an entire page to explain the dichotomy between the meta world and the human world, and how this relates to the baseline abilities of meta-entities in general.
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There is any changes on the Golden Truth?
 
Silent Hill F is unrelated to WTC like Rewrite right?

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Nekobako said:
What? Really?
Then what is the difference in term of canon with SHF?
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The difference is that there aren’t direct connections like the stellar system or the Sea of Fragments in SHF.

We can’t assume it’s canon just because Ryukishi07 wrote it, y’know. Rewrite has a lot of evidence and SHF doesn’t.

The only “connection” you could extrapolate is extremely vague (a doll that looks a lot like Higanbana); aside from that, nothing.
 
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I have contacted Fandom regarding this user and this user, there is a confirm link between them. So I will permanently ban both of them on the grounds of abusing multiple accounts + vandalism. Thank you for helping out. 🙏❤️
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For those wondering: the reason of the ban was that Wankbreaker/BasedNecoScaler/Marshadow were already banned for impersonating a staff member and in the Wank account he was evading the ban by impersonating his ex-girlfriend (without her knownledge or consent).

I think it's worth commenting about this here since Wank was involved in the recent Umineko's revisions and was an active member on this thread.
 
HigashikataJobin said:
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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

I have contacted Fandom regarding this user and this user, there is a confirm link between them. So I will permanently ban both of them on the grounds of abusing multiple accounts + vandalism. Thank you for helping out. 🙏❤️
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For those wondering: the reason of the ban was that Wankbreaker/BasedNecoScaler/Marshadow were already banned for impersonating a staff member and in the Wank account he was evading the ban by impersonating his ex-girlfriend (without her knownledge or consent).

I think it's worth commenting about this here since Wank was involved in the recent Umineko's revisions and was an active member on this thread.
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Oh no...... anyways
 
Truths are used for erasing others to the Depths of Oblivion, which is the background for the entire evolutionary journey towards the level of Creator, where beings who lose themselves end up. This means the potency of Truths is equivalent to High Outerverse level.
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I just saw this in Truth profile and I have three questions for that
1. Now, Depths of Oblivion is already the new version, right?
2. So Truths are Smurf High 1-A?
3. If Truth is Smurf High 1-A, Endless nine for both Battler and Goat will be High 1-A Invulnerability since it's unaffected with Knox and Van dine which is Truth too?
 
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