"What's wrong? Lives flashing before you’re eyes?" (4-8-0)

[King_Dom470]

Rules:
Speed equal
Both characters are able to give up
9-A Frisk is used
Frisk's optional equipment is restricted
Death has prior Knowledge of Frisk's ability
Battle takes place in the judgment hall
SBA for everything else

Death gives Frisk PTSD: (Gilad_Hyperstar, HonestlyBored24, King_Dom470, Serlock_Holmes)





Frisk cheats Death: (koopa3144, Ayewale, Maverick_Zero_X, FireSwordHero, AThe1412, XSOULOFCINDERX, Roachman40, XxZetsuxX)





They both die somehow:

 

[noninho]

Frisk's equipment is restricted

Except for Stick, Bandages and Cell phone, yeah

anyway, following but leaning towards Frisk ig

 

[King_Dom470]

Except for Stick, Bandages and Cell phone, yeah

anyway, following but leaning towards Frisk ig

Should of specified optional equipment my bad

 

[King_Dom470]

bump

 

[King_Dom470]

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[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Could you link both profiles? Would be easier to evaluate this that way

 

[King_Dom470]

Could you link both profiles? Would be easier to evaluate this that way

I did. Click on "Frisk cheats Death" and "Death gives Frisk PTSD" they link to each of their profiles

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Ah I see. Could Frisk get around Death's type 8 immortality? Because to destroy him he'd need to destroy the concept of death

 

[King_Dom470]

Ah I see. Could Frisk get around Death's type 8 immortality? Because to destroy him he'd need to destroy the concept of death

Doubtful. This fight would probably come down to who gives up first since their both immortal. So Frisk can reset to try and remember deaths attack patterns, But death is far more skilled and has higher lifting strength than Frisk which is what keeps this fight even.

 

[koopa3144]

Can't Frisk just use their SI on death to confine them to stop fighting?

 

[King_Dom470]

Can't Frisk just use their SI on death to confine them to stop fighting?

I don't think that would work on death, the only reason death stopped trying to kill puss is because A: He only had one life left and B: He learned his lesson about cherishing his one life. Frisk will just simply never die and therefore it's kinda hard to cherish every life if you literally can’t die.

 

[koopa3144]

I don't think that would work on death, the only reason death stopped trying to kill puss is because A: He only had one life left and B: He learned his lesson about cherishing his one life. Frisk will just simply never die and therefore it's kinda hard to cherish every life if you literally can’t die.

Frisk can convince many monsters to give up on killing them and taking their soul even though that would free their race and give them god-like power. Frisk can use check to see Death's mental state and learn how to get Death to spare them. Also, how would Death know Frisk can revive via saves?

 

[King_Dom470]

Frisk can convince many monsters to give up on killing them and taking their soul even though that would free their race and give them god-like power. Frisk can use check to see Death's mental state and learn how to get Death to spare them. Also, how would Death know Frisk can revive via saves?

I meant to give death prior Knowledge of frisk reset ability.

The difference between Death and the monsters would be that Death is hunting Frisk because they can reset. Frisk using talk-no-jutsu on Death wouldn’t work because there wouldn’t be anyway for Frisk to convince death "Oh i won't reset anymore i've learned my lesson" because death isn't gonna buy that. Death said himself that he "Finds the idea of nine lives absurd" So imagine how he'd feel about infinite lives.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Can Death kill Frisk though? I suppose if he claims his SOUL then maybe but otherwise it's probably inconclusive since neither can kill each other and Death wouldn't stop trying to kill him

 

[koopa3144]

Can't Frisk put Death to sleep using their sleep manip?

 

[King_Dom470]

Can Death kill Frisk though? I suppose if he claims his SOUL then maybe but otherwise it's probably inconclusive since neither can kill each other and Death wouldn't stop trying to kill him

In the rules i said that making one give up is a viable way to win

 

[King_Dom470]

Can't Frisk put Death to sleep using their sleep manip?

I mean i guess? But thats super out of character they literally only use it against knight knight

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

In the rules i said that making one give up is a viable way to win

Sure but Death won't give up. Death would know about Frisk being able to revive themselves and would be super pissed. Someone else above have said it but if he was this angry for Puss having 9 lives, he would hate Frisk revivng themselves even more

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Also the idea of putting death to sleep is absurd. I mean there isn't a resistance on his profile but in-verse it would make no sense for the personification of Death to be....susceptible to sleepiness. One could make a point that he never appeared to sleep in the movie and was always acting.

But yeah that's stretching it.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Sure but Death won't give up. Death would know about Frisk being able to revive themselves and would be super pissed. Someone else above have said it but if he was this angry for Puss having 9 lives, he would hate Frisk revivng themselves even more

Now I want to see Death reacting to that.

 

[King_Dom470]

Sure but Death won't give up. Death would know about Frisk being able to revive themselves and would be super pissed. Someone else above have said it but if he was this angry for Puss having 9 lives, he would hate Frisk revivng themselves even more

I mean yeah fair but he wouldn’t know when frisk resets. He knows that they can do it just not when so he wont know how many times Frisk has died

 

[koopa3144]

I mean i guess? But thats super out of character they literally only use it against knight knight

I wouldn't say it's out of character for Frisk even more so after they find that just talking won't stop Death

Also the idea of putting death to sleep is absurd. I mean there isn't a resistance on his profile but in-verse it would make no sense for the personification of Death to be....susceptible to sleepiness. One could make a point that he never appeared to sleep in the movie and was always acting.

But yeah that's stretching it.

Beings with abstract existence type 2 can still be affected by things like poison and mind manip. I'd say that Death wouldn't be affected by sleep manip just because his abstract is stretching it

 

[King_Dom470]

I wouldn't say it's out of character for Frisk as easily after they find the just talking won't stop Death

Then why didn’t they do this on sans when they realized sparing wouldn’t work? I really can't see frisk using this on death unless their bloodlusted

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Beings with abstract existence type 2 can still be affected by things like poison and mind manip. I'd say that Death wouldn't be affected by sleep manip just because his abstract is stretching it

I feel the literal concept of death being affected by sleep mani ,considering he should never sleep just to actually know everyone that dies, absurd. But it is what it is. It's valid.

 

[koopa3144]

Then why didn’t they do this on sans when they realized sparing wouldn’t work? I really can't see frisk using this on death unless their bloodlusted

I'd say Frisk not using it is more Plot-Induced Stupidity than anything. Also they were trying to kill sans, why put him to sleep and spare him?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I mean yeah fair but he wouldn’t know when frisk resets. He knows that they can do it just not when so he wont know how many times Frisk has died

If he knows he can do it, that is all that matters since for all he cares it could be literally infinite amount of times, so the reaction would be the same

 

[King_Dom470]

i'd say Frisk not using it is more Plot-Induced Stupidity than anything. Also they where trying to kill sans, why put him to sleep and spare him?

Im saying they could put him to sleep so he can't attack them anymore not spare him

 

[King_Dom470]

If he knows he can do it, that is all that matters since for all he cares it could be literally infinite amount of times, so the reaction would be the same

Sure but at one point Frisk would have memorized his attacks and managed to kill him or at the very least incap him

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Sure but at one point Frisk would have memorized his attacks and managed to kill him or at the very least incap him

How would he get around Type 8?

 

[King_Dom470]

How would he get around Type 8?

Getting death to give up or incapping him via sleep manip (Which i see as unlikely but i guess its Possible)

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Getting death to give up or incapping him via sleep manip (Which i see as unlikely but i guess its Possible)

Yeah no make him give up wouldn't work. Frisk's mere ability to revive would make him a target for Death and he wouldn't be convinced to let go of his prey

 

[King_Dom470]

Yeah no make him give up wouldn't work. Frisk's mere ability to revive would make him a target for Death and he wouldn't be convinced to let go of his prey

Fair point. Then it would basically be Frisk and death dying back and fourth until either Frisk loses the will to fight and permanently dies or Frisk tries to put death to sleep

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Fair point. Then it would basically be Frisk and death dying back and fourth until either Frisk loses the will to fight and permanently dies or Frisk tries to put death to sleep

I feel like death will eventually just resort to torture via flame manipulation just to make him give up.

 

[King_Dom470]

I feel like death will eventually just resort to torture via flame manipulation just to make him give up.

Frisk is immune to high temperatures so flames would definitely be less helpful but yeah he totally could

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

So uhhh, if that's the case, I'll vote Death since Frisk would probably lose the will to fight before Death, and neither can permanently get rid of the other

 

[King_Dom470]

So uhhh, if that's the case, I'll vote Death since Frisk would probably lose the will to fight before Death, and neither can permanently get rid of the other

Well Frisk can permanently die if they lose the will to go on but counted

 

[HonestlyBored24]

The GOAT FRA

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Well Frisk can permanently die if they lose the will to go on but counted

Well if that's the case it'd just be more of a reason for me to vote for Death

 

[HammerStrikes219]

I'd say Frisk not using it is more Plot-Induced Stupidity than anything. Also they were trying to kill sans, why put him to sleep and spare him?

Again, it is a unlikely move as Frisk could done it to multiple characters if that was the case and definitely not a valid example of PIS.
Sans, and any other characters that Frisk has fought in the Genocidal route pretty much nulls this “PIS” argument ngl.

 

[King_Dom470]

Again, it is a unlikely move as Frisk could done it to multiple characters if that was the case and definitely not a valid example of PIS.
Sans, and any other characters that Frisk has fought in the Genocidal route pretty much nulls this “PIS” argument ngl.

You could make the argument that in Frisk doesn’t have the ability in genocide or more likely scenario is that they didn’t use it because they didn’t have to or thought it would be a pathetic way to win