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What does the word "Outlier" and "Pis" mean exactly?

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After this disaster , I want to know what's the exact meaning of Outlier and Pis exactly ? Are they the same ? When should I use them ? And if someone has many low ends and very little High ends would this be enough to consider those high ends "Outliers" ?

Can anyone give me a good explanation because I'm kind lost at this point
 
If peeps are reading them and not understanding then they need to be explained better on the page.

An Outlier is, for example, if Character A has many feats of being Tier 7 with effort, but one feat of being casually Tier 5. Then the Tier 7 feats are much more consistent than the Tier 5 feat, so the characters Tier 5 feat would be an Outlier, as it does not make sense for them to be casually Tier 5, but Tier 7 with effort.

PIS (Plot-Induced Stupidity), is a pretty common thing in fiction, it's essentially when a character only achieves something because the writers say so.
For Example; Character A is Tier 7 throughout the entire series, but then magically contends with a Tier 5 being for no given reason, so instead of scaling Character A to their one unexplained Tier 5 showing, we class the feat as Plot-Induced Stupidity, and keep the character at their much more consistent Tier 7 rating.
 
PIS (Plot-Induced Stupidity), is a pretty common thing in fiction, it's essentially when a character only achieves something because the writers say so.
For Example; Character A is Tier 7 throughout the entire series, but then magically contends with a Tier 5 being for no given reason, so instead of scaling Character A to their one unexplained Tier 5 showing, we class the feat as Plot-Induced Stupidity, and keep the character at their much more consistent Tier 7 rating.
But then.....in some verses lile Pokemon you see 2-B beings consistently losing against High 7-A beings over and over again for no reason ........ Why do we consider those low ends Pis exactly ? Because it contradict the lore ?
 
Because lore takes priority over game mechanics and more.

Afaik: The Tier 2s have a hella lotta lore to back them up, PIS and Outliers are less frequent than said lore. The likes of trainers Darkrai are Outliers because that Darkrai's only shown feat was losing to a Tier 7 Pokemon (Pokemon generally do not scale between each other in cases like this else we'd have regular 3-C Bewear and all Pikachus would scale to Ash's Pikachu, which would put the entire verse at Tier 3 through scaling).

Game Mechanics are invalidated by their very nature, they are intended to make games fair, not lore accurate.

The argument can be made for all Pokemon to be Tier 7, or lower, or higher, but just as easily for all Pokemon to be Tier 2, we have to find the most reasonable alternatives in Pokemons case.
 
Worth noting that this works on the inverse, a feat/struggle way below the character's usual power would be a outlier (though is easier to refer as a antifeat) and PIS may make a character weaker for the sake of plot.
For example: Thor getting incapped by a handgun bullet. Thanos getting busted by the cops, Darkseid getting beat up by a bunch of streetside goons, Hulk struggling against a gorilla or a python.
 
Afaik: The Tier 2s have a hella lotta lore to back them up, PIS and Outliers are less frequent than said lore. The likes of trainers Darkrai are Outliers because that Darkrai's only shown feat was losing to a Tier 7 Pokemon (Pokemon generally do not scale between each other in cases like this else we'd have regular 3-C Bewear and all Pikachus would scale to Ash's Pikachu, which would put the entire verse at Tier 3 through scaling).
Then if the 2-B thing was only for M10 Darkrai, why does Darkrai in general listed as 2-B if this is indeed only that one specific Darkrai?
 
Outlier: An excuse to pretend a high end feat never happened for the sole purpose of rejecting upgrades and enforcing downgrades to go through.
PIS: An excuse to pretend a struggled low end feat or anti-feat never happened for the sole purpose of rejecting downgrades and enforcing upgrades to go through.

In all seriousness, both are heavily case by case practices that should typically be used to find middle ground or used when scenes create too many loopholes in the powerscaling chain.
 
Unless you want to argue the lore is inconsistent or should not be taken over gameplay yeah
 
It's easier to close your eyes rather than saying that some verses just don't care about that stuff.
 
Outlier: An excuse to pretend a high end feat never happened for the sole purpose of rejecting upgrades and enforcing downgrades to go through.
PIS: An excuse to pretend a struggled low end feat or anti-feat never happened for the sole purpose of rejecting downgrades and enforcing upgrades to go through.

In all seriousness, both are heavily case by case practices that should typically be used to find middle ground or used when scenes create too many loopholes in the powerscaling chain.
The definitions can be exchanged and it'll still apply.

Outliers don't just mean high-end feats, IMO. It also include low-end feats that is an aberrant compared to other high-end feats in a setting.
 
So feats that contradict the lore would automatically be considered Pis ?
PIS doesn't really exist. Same for outlier. There is always a reason for things, just try and come up with a possible interpretation

Example: If Batman harms Lex Luthor with gear, instead of assuming it to be plot armour or PIS, you can interpret it as Batman possibly using stronger gear than usual or he had prep time
 
PIS doesn't really exist. Same for outlier.
This is not true, mainly outliers, a lot of things are inconsistent, such as tier 8 characters or above that can die due falling in the ground, even tho the damage is literally only 9-B at best for human-like characters, and about PIS, lol, Kars from Jojo has above 400 IQ, but literally all of his strategies shown in ULF are literally negative IQ things
 
This is not true, mainly outliers, a lot of things are inconsistent, such as tier 8 characters or above that can die due falling in the ground, even tho the damage is literally only 9-B at best for human-like characters, and about PIS, lol, Kars from Jojo has above 400 IQ, but literally all of his strategies shown in ULF are literally negative IQ things
Why is that a more consistent interpretation than what I brought up
 
Why is that a more consistent interpretation than what I brought up
Your case is not really an Outlier, it's just a character with a specific weapon that allows him to damage stronger characters, the examples that I gave are literal outliers, as it makes no sense to a tier 8 character be damaged by a fall that it's only a 9-B value at best, even if the fall is from the Mesosphere or Exosphere, the value still is 9-B
 
Your case is not really an Outlier, it's just a character with a specific weapon that allows him to damage stronger characters, the examples that I gave are literal outliers, as it makes no sense to a tier 8 character be damaged by a fall that it's only a 9-B value at best, even if the fall is from the Mesosphere or Exosphere, the value still is 9-B
Or maybe the characters are just operating at a lower durability for an unknown reason? "PIS" or "outlier" is a lazy way of interpreting it
 
Or maybe the characters are just operating at a lower durability for an unknown reason?
You need to prove that, if it was a character like Goku, it would be understandable, as his strength varies according to his Ki, but others cases are not like that, and you need to prove it if u want to accept it as not an outlier
 
You need to prove that, if it was a character like Goku, it would be understandable, as his strength varies according to his Ki, but others cases are not like that, and you need to prove it if u want to accept it as not an outlier
The evidence that their durability just dropped is obviously context dependent, give me an example
 
one of my favorite examples, Sponge Bob, there has episodes that he literally couldnt lift A ******* MARSHMELLOW




Yet sometimes he can do THIS?
 
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