What does it mean to be "above baseline" for Tier 2?

[Lukewoesal007]

How do Low 2-C/2-C/2-B/2-A characters become above baseline?

 

[GoldExPoints]

Character A is baseline 2-A, Character B utterly dominates them in a fight.
2-A = A < B, therefore B is above baseline 2-A.

In that same token, if B gets oneshot by C and can't get back up then C is far above baseline 2-A. The rule of thumb is when we get to infinite values for AP (High 3-A and above), scaling chains are more important than numerical values since APs at that point can't really be measured.

 

[ObberGobb]

Character A is baseline 2-A, Character B utterly dominates them in a fight.
2-A = A < B, therefore B is above baseline 2-A.

In that same token, if B gets oneshot by C and can't get back up then C is far above baseline 2-A. The rule of thumb is when we get to infinite values for AP (High 3-A and above), scaling chains are more important than numerical values since APs at that point can't really be measured.

So, lets say Character A one shots Character B, who destroyed 10 universes (2-C). Character C destroys 15 universes (Also 2-C). How would the battle between Character A and Character C be measured?

 

[theultimate5105]

Above baseline Low 2-C is for example being 10 times someone who destroyed a timeline
Above Baseline 2-C is scaling to 3 or more universes or upscaling from someone who is baseline
Above baseline 2-B is the same as 2-C but with 1001 universes instead
Above baseline 2-A is weird but its still being above someone who is baseline 2-A

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Tl;dr Scaling chains and big cosmology go brrr!

 

[StekFence]

So, lets say Character A one shots Character B, who destroyed 10 universes (2-C). Character C destroys 15 universes (Also 2-C). How would the battle between Character A and Character C be measured?

On the site, C would be considered stronger then B I believe.

 

[Peppypony]

one question i'd like to ask actually, is it possible for a character to be infinitely above baseline Low 2-C, 2-C, 2-B and 2-A while still remaining within that tier. i remember years ago all the way back in 2016 people believed that to be the case with asriel dreemurr and smt characters when they peaked at 2-A, but i don't know whether the rules on that have changed or not.

like let's say a character is infinitely above baseline Low 2-C, are they still Low 2-C or does that literally take them to 2-C?

 

[StekFence]

like let's say a character is infinitely above baseline Low 2-C, are they still Low 2-C

Yes

 

[GoldExPoints]

So, lets say Character A one shots Character B, who destroyed 10 universes (2-C). Character C destroys 15 universes (Also 2-C). How would the battle between Character A and Character C be measured?

Character C would have the absolute advantage in AP, in a way that's (I'm pretty sure is) inaccessible to Character A. C could sneeze a bit too hard and A would keel over and die.

like let's say a character is infinitely above baseline Low 2-C, are they still Low 2-C or does that literally take them to 2-C?

Yes they are still Low 2-C, to break the 2-C barrier you'd need showings of destroying multiple Low 2-C structures at once.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Just get stronger lmao

 

[Planck69]

Character C would have the absolute advantage in AP, in a way that's (I'm pretty sure is) inaccessible to Character A. C could sneeze a bit too hard and A would keel over and die.

While it is true that characters who scale to more spacetime continuums are taken to be a lot stronger by default, this is due to the gap being unknowable rather than some concrete massive difference. Felt like I should specify this since a lot of times this has been misconstrued as a beyond infinite gap existing between Low 2-C and 2-C, 2 universes and 3 universes etc.