About branching timelines/alternate universes

[Furudo_Erika]

I have seen several verses listed as 2-C to 2-A because they have a multiverse that operates under branching timelines.

But this doesn't add up to the description of 2-C through 2-A; requiring them to be SEPARATE spacetimes.

These branching timelines can all be traced back to a singular origin point in time, so they must fall under the same exact temporal system.

Wouldn't this just be Low 2-C, as they are all under the same temporal system instead of being their own system?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I'm not the most knowledgeable on this subject, but I guess it depends on the verse. As one example, the MCU works on branching timelines, but they are spatio-temporally separate from one another

 

[KLOL506]

Case-by-case basis. As was determined in this thread.

@Planck69 @Theglassman12 @Elizhaa @DarkDragonMedeus @DontTalkDT can elaborate further.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Not sure if I can elaborate at the moment, but branching timelines or brane timelines as some might call it can vary anywhere between 2-C and the various Tier 1 sizes. It just means timelines containing other timelines is the general definition. And if a timeline contains 2 or more timelines that are Low 2-C sized individually, then it's easily 2-C at minimum. It's not to be confused with quilted multiverses or bubble multiverses where are just single timelines containing multiple pocket dimensions in the latter's case or an infinite chain of parallel observable universes in the former's case.

 

[Furudo_Erika]

Not sure if I can elaborate at the moment, but branching timelines or brane timelines as some might call it can vary anywhere between 2-C and the various Tier 1 sizes. It just means timelines containing other timelines is the general definition. And if a timeline contains 2 or more timelines that are Low 2-C sized individually, then it's easily 2-C at minimum. It's not to be confused with quilted multiverses or bubble multiverses where are just single timelines containing multiple pocket dimensions in the latter's case or an infinite chain of parallel observable universes in the former's case.

Okay, but that still doesn't change that they can be traced back to an origin point.

Each and every one of those timelines share the same exact past at the start as they are the same temporal system.

 

[Furudo_Erika]

Also: destroy the origin point, you remove all timelines which would have branched out.
You do not have to affect all timelines to destroy a branching multiverse, you just need to cut the beginning off before it branches; that single instance of time can halt all progression.

And you can reach the origin point by...tracing back to it throughout the branches.

To me, it just sounds like a huge Low 2-C structure, as the timelines are not their own isolated systems; they are all part of a large, singular one.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I created this sandbox to precisely explain why they are separate

ImmortalDread/Branching Timeline

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Although, obviously if they meet the requirements for it. You may find it a bit confused, I don't blame (DT needed some time too).

 

[Furudo_Erika]

"A and B must occupy distinct spatial and temporal locations"

This is the part that gets me, since in a branching timeline universe, the universe is the exact same spatially.

The objects inside the space may not be be the same, but they would all share the same spatial structure.

And it says they must not be subsets of one another. This is moreso an entirely separate world line that branched off in a different direction from the beginning rather than an alternate timeline.

That is to say, to enter A from B or B from A, you would actually need to trace back from the point where they both branched separately from one another.

But that still doesn't change you can still trace them back to the same exact temporal point before they branched; meaning they are still both in the same large temporal system.

 

[Furudo_Erika]

This has always bothered me, since all timelines should be under the same system; destroying a point, and all proceeding branches are annihilated with it.

So I came up with my own version of branching timelines for my verse; simply adding another temporal axis:

Explanation: Linear time can only move left to right. So in other for time to branch off in another direction, there must be another direction it can move in: "outwards"; an additional temporal coordinate. These branching timelines are called "planar time".

Good news about this: It is easy to understand.

Bad news: This makes a universe a 3+2D structure (Low 1-C) and requires 5D range to reach into a different branch, even though each linear timeline is Low 2-C (3+1D).

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Our policy of "Anything bigger or has an extra-D above a Tier 2 structure = Tier 1" has changed. 2-C sized timelines containing other sized 2-C timelines are a thing and we have voice against anti-middle ground view points about those.

 

[Furudo_Erika]

It's not simply a higher dimension, but an additional coordinate axis time can run on; the additional temporal dimension is orthogonal to the first, forming a plane rather than a simple line.