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Weiss shatters?
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Baseline High 8-C (2 Tons) = Paladins who gets one shotted by V-3 Weiss Summon when it's only an arm, no body. V-5 Summon is stronger than V-3's, and Vernal still easily one shots it. Base Raven should be superior to Vernal and Qrow equals her. V-6 Weiss is shown to equal Qrow. So Weiss scales to Qrow who is superior to Vernal, who can one shot Weiss Summon, who can one shot baselines in a weaker form.Apeironaxim said:can we get an AP value?
When has Weiss ever used that against human opponents? I've recalled she has only used it against Grimm... Which are from the video games and has gameplay mechanics going on...WeeklyBattles said:No Gamma shatters, current Weiss' ice manip is able to shatter opponents rather than encase them in ice
Not exactly, she's able to ride them sort of like a moving platform to bring her into the air, and she can use a repulsion glyph to launch herself, and forcefields would be able to block her lightning.DeathNoodles said:Weiss' glyphs are just simply platforms for her to step on, they aren't true flight so she doesn't quite have much of a mobility advantage to dodge all of Naberal's lightning. And when has Weiss even teleported her summons to her opponents?
Yes.WeeklyBattles said:During the fight against the Queen Lancer, would you like a video of it?
That Arma Gigas summon has only started doing that once it has gotten close enough to the Queen Lancer though. I don't recall it doing that at larger distance, which Naberal can just teleport out of (as her teleportation can reach up to several hundred kilometres).WeeklyBattles said:
Can you please cite this?WeeklyBattles said:Not from the games, its from the show
It doesn't sound like an early move or even one she uses often. she uses it once against a large grim shattering its wings, it doesn't even fully encase said grimm. Again she only did after the fight has been going on for some time and the grim was growing weaker. (heck she targets the thinnest part of the grim as well) I know Im the op bla bla bla just saying there are some circumstances to this that make me doubt her freezing would fully work.The real cal howard said:She did that once and once only. And even then it was well into the fight.
Thu far she hasnt fought a human opponent while she had access to this abilityDeathNoodles said:So, you gave me a scene of her doing that against Grimm... When has she done that to human opponents? CIS exists for a reason you know, and they're perfectly valid to use in Versus debates unlike PIS, so it can be argued that Weiss also wouldn't do that against human enemies.
Weiss (and most of RWBY characters really) have no resistance against Mind Manipulation (since hallucination-inducing abilities can affect them), so...Apeironaxim said:Narberal charming her is far more likely to happen first
Especially because Weiss is human
Not a good enough reasoning to excuse Weiss from CIS against human or human-like opponents. There has to be either a demonstration of her using that against human opponents or an explicit statement that she would do that against human opponents. This isn't a bloodlusted match you know.WeeklyBattles said:Thu far she hasnt fought a human opponent while she had access to this ability
Then yeah this would likely be a stompThe pen or the sword said:She's been in one fight in the entire series and it was like her second/third move iirc