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Weakest character who can beat and permanently kill Bernkastel/Lambdadelta?
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how about suzumiya haruhi ? can her kill bernkastel if stand in same dimension ?
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How would they be able to "stand in the same dimension"?
If you mean like equalizing their dimensional levels, then I doubt it would matter due to Bern's 1-A hax, as well as the fact that matches with statistics other than speed that are equalized are not considered legit on this wiki
If you mean like equalizing their dimensional levels, then I doubt it would matter due to Bern's 1-A hax, as well as the fact that matches with statistics other than speed that are equalized are not considered legit on this wiki
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A 3 Dimensional hat in an infinite dimensional space is still a 3 dimensional hat. Placing the two on the same plane of existence won't do anything for Haruhi, not even speed as Bernkastel's speed is definitely not the normal speed on that plane.
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Speedwagon.
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well the reasoning behind Umineko's strength follows that rule. almost all of the normal charcater and some of the weaker demons go from 9-B to at least 1-C the moment they are in "Higher Layers". I'm not jokeing, here'sa couple . By that logic any character that we put on the same Layer as Bern's should roughly be equal to her.TheMightyRegulator said:
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Permanently kill true Bern and Lambda + their shapeless essences or just permanently off them from a single lower layer?
Because regardless of the answer you're looking for, the "weakest" would still have to be stupidly powerful.
Because regardless of the answer you're looking for, the "weakest" would still have to be stupidly powerful.
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@JBennett
You must undergo evolution to become a higher being.
I don't think there's an english translation that can properly convey it but basically, the higher you go, the less restrictions you have.
In Umineko the higher dimensional world of non-humans was merging with that of the normal world of humans, but even when they moved to this parallel reality they are still treated as only (sometimes magically empowered) three dimensional human beings.
You must undergo evolution to become a higher being.
I don't think there's an english translation that can properly convey it but basically, the higher you go, the less restrictions you have.
In Umineko the higher dimensional world of non-humans was merging with that of the normal world of humans, but even when they moved to this parallel reality they are still treated as only (sometimes magically empowered) three dimensional human beings.
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well, when in doubt, send Hajun. He's probably the most powerful mid-end Tier 1-A. And to my knowledge, Bern is mid-tier Tier 1-A... sort of.
... Ok I admit Hajun might be overkill, hmm, I wanted to nominate Watchers but they don't have 'Tier 1-A' mentioned anywhere in their profile so Bern might regen continuously so Watchers can't win either..
... Ok I admit Hajun might be overkill, hmm, I wanted to nominate Watchers but they don't have 'Tier 1-A' mentioned anywhere in their profile so Bern might regen continuously so Watchers can't win either..
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That still doesn't change the fact that we considered them as Higher Layered beings dispite being normal humans with no magical abilites. If being in a higer Layer doesn't equal to being a higher layer being then they should still be the same as they were before, but we have them on the same level despite only being a peice in a board game and not going through any real evolution.
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Piece Battler, before becoming game master, created the concept of gravity and dwarfs multiverses.
He is not a normal human anymore.
Even without the given scans, gaining the ability to suddenly, as Rika said, view the worlds as "stories" should be enough indication that she's not the girl she was before.
I don't know where you gained the idea that characters in higher layers aren't higher layer beings. Higher dimensions and higher layers are not the same thing.
He is not a normal human anymore.
I don't understand why you think losing restrictions when travelling to higher layers isn't real evolution.JBennett said:
Even without the given scans, gaining the ability to suddenly, as Rika said, view the worlds as "stories" should be enough indication that she's not the girl she was before.
I don't know where you gained the idea that characters in higher layers aren't higher layer beings. Higher dimensions and higher layers are not the same thing.
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Normal human beings don't dwarf multiverses.
It was a bit more than invited, Lambda literally towed them to the City of Books, giving them their manifestations and Battler was the game master at that point so I don't understand why you brought up someone who has been practically referred to as god.
Higher layer >dimension, as they contain and are separated by several dimensions.
It was a bit more than invited, Lambda literally towed them to the City of Books, giving them their manifestations and Battler was the game master at that point so I don't understand why you brought up someone who has been practically referred to as god.
Higher layer >dimension, as they contain and are separated by several dimensions.
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Right, living concepts... Just illusions made for the higher gameboards...
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Sigh People forget the most obvious answer ....
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^ The true reason I retired.
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Bad jokes aside I've found evidence for what Darklk was talking about lying on my phone:
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I want that screenshot containing only "That's a bit depressing" as a reaction image. Lord knows I could use it.TheMightyRegulator said:Bad jokes aside I've found evidence for what Darklk was talking about lying on my phone:
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This is actually an incredibly difficult question.
To destroy their true selves.... you have to be incredibly high on the 1-A scale.
To destroy their true selves.... you have to be incredibly high on the 1-A scale.
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Uh....
Is there a joke I'm not getting, because you'd still have to be stupidly powerful to permanently put down these girls.
Is there a joke I'm not getting, because you'd still have to be stupidly powerful to permanently put down these girls.
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Rika Furude(1-C) maybe, she and Bern was one somehow so if she tried to kill herself or lost in the final arc of Higurashi, Bern could be dead too since at that time Bern was not even born, she could be never existed.
But maybe I'm wrong since Bern's magic can make anything extremely hard to happen happens and Rika did survive in the final stage so as long as there is a chance, Bern can still survive and win.
But maybe I'm wrong since Bern's magic can make anything extremely hard to happen happens and Rika did survive in the final stage so as long as there is a chance, Bern can still survive and win.
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