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Warriors of Heaven and Hell: The Most Skilled on the Wiki!
RandomGuy2345
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Nah stuff like Accelerated Development, Analytical Prediction, and more can be used for skill feats.
The greatest wrestler ever is pretty subjective. You need actual statements of The Undertaker being considered the greatest of all time. Kenny actually has statements of being the greatest of all time. He's even considered "The God of Professional Wrestling."
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I'll try making a Garou skill feat lidt today, hopefully I get somewhere.
I don't think he'll be quite near the top dogs like Baki characters and Chinamen but definitely more skilled than people like Son Goku or anyone from DB verse.
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Idk I think Garou's copying and overall arsenal of skill is far beyond The Boxer verse. But in terms of Analytical predictions, sure.
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Meh Mash outskills both
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Eh, it's a multi-faceted comparison.
Yu is the better striker of the two/a more straightforward fighter, meanwhile Garou has a wider arsenal of techniques and copying ability. So it depends on how one would compare the two; Is simplicity or variety better?
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We can have the debate when Garou's list is finished.
(Me thinking that skill debates can be fun is probably a mistake though)
azontr
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I mean I'm personally having fun with this thread(though having to manage it and shit is overwhelming). As long as people are reasonable and don't get heated, skill debates are interesting imo.We can have the debate when Garou's list is finished.
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Garou is in what category?
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Prolly multifaceted
RandomGuy2345
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It really depends on your mood imo. It also depends on how complex said skill feats are.
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Garou's main strengths are:
Technique Mimicry( can copy complex martial arts with a glance, perfect them and eventually improve them, can copy them while unconscious, use the full arsenal after seeing one move while his vision was blurry then combining said martial art with another one he had to create ultimate moves that were meant for combo attacks between 2 grandmaster with perfect coordination due to training together and being brothers, copy techniques wich involve body control and stat amping like awakening breath and exploding heart release fist, can copy techniques by barely reading part of the theory from one of the many scrolls and then completing all the missing elements by himself to the point of impressing the original creator etc.)
Accelerated development ( most of his skill growth was done in like a single day and a few battles).
And individual fighting styles.( he has some WSRSF wich is an extremely complete martial art, wich while focusing on defense and counter can adapt and function efficiently in attack defense and counter, a martial art wich perfectly combines it with WICF wich is another style completely different from it using half of his body to project each martial art and creating a new one that has dura neg, supposedly created Fa Jin by himself while fighting Darkshine and then upgraded it when fighting Saitama since it wasn't listed among the 12 other martial arts he knew, has stat amping with awakening breath, body control and stat amping with EHRF and then fused and perfect all his martial arts into monster calamity god slaying fist and that's before turning into cosmic Garou)
His biggest weakness are lack of experience ( no 1936197271 year old martial artist with vague showings that loses to a 17 year old in opm, and the oldest martial artists are Bang and Bomb, also has a severe lack of showings against the more skilled weapon users of OPM like the samurais and Flashy Flash who ironically lost his sword right before his fight against Garou)
Lack of feats fighting large armies ( his best is 8x1 albeit while heavily injured, with a fever,thirsty and hungry, poisoned and with blurred vision )
and his rather limited skill chain.
(Bang is the most skilled martial artist in the world, by the time you surpass him your only hope is meditating till you die in hope of gaining enlightenment or progressing completely alone by yourself, and then your skill chain will be being better than your previous self endlessly)
Technique Mimicry( can copy complex martial arts with a glance, perfect them and eventually improve them, can copy them while unconscious, use the full arsenal after seeing one move while his vision was blurry then combining said martial art with another one he had to create ultimate moves that were meant for combo attacks between 2 grandmaster with perfect coordination due to training together and being brothers, copy techniques wich involve body control and stat amping like awakening breath and exploding heart release fist, can copy techniques by barely reading part of the theory from one of the many scrolls and then completing all the missing elements by himself to the point of impressing the original creator etc.)
Accelerated development ( most of his skill growth was done in like a single day and a few battles).
And individual fighting styles.( he has some WSRSF wich is an extremely complete martial art, wich while focusing on defense and counter can adapt and function efficiently in attack defense and counter, a martial art wich perfectly combines it with WICF wich is another style completely different from it using half of his body to project each martial art and creating a new one that has dura neg, supposedly created Fa Jin by himself while fighting Darkshine and then upgraded it when fighting Saitama since it wasn't listed among the 12 other martial arts he knew, has stat amping with awakening breath, body control and stat amping with EHRF and then fused and perfect all his martial arts into monster calamity god slaying fist and that's before turning into cosmic Garou)
His biggest weakness are lack of experience ( no 1936197271 year old martial artist with vague showings that loses to a 17 year old in opm, and the oldest martial artists are Bang and Bomb, also has a severe lack of showings against the more skilled weapon users of OPM like the samurais and Flashy Flash who ironically lost his sword right before his fight against Garou)
Lack of feats fighting large armies ( his best is 8x1 albeit while heavily injured, with a fever,thirsty and hungry, poisoned and with blurred vision )
and his rather limited skill chain.
(Bang is the most skilled martial artist in the world, by the time you surpass him your only hope is meditating till you die in hope of gaining enlightenment or progressing completely alone by yourself, and then your skill chain will be being better than your previous self endlessly)
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Flashy is likely more skilled than according to Gale Wind.
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No ******* way that Flashy is more skilled than bang
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I mean he was able to fight against Garou for an extended period of time when the same form of Garou but sleeping was already superior to Bang in skill
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During his debut he solos a pretty decent-sized group of heroes effortlessly. But other than that, yeah...
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I mean he's far more skilled than people like Atomic Samurai, Genos, Tatsumaki, Darkshine, and Iaian, who could each somewhat hold their own against the Black Sperm Army of at least 449 billion fighters.
RandomGuy2345
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Actually... Good point. Lol.
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Tbf they are far stronger than each Black Sperm
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Ngl, I bet I could fight a few billion 10-C's as long as I was like tier 7 comparatively and had multi-km range on every attack so I could kill countless every attack.
If they were all the same or close to, stat wise, that would be utterly ridiculous as a skill feat but, well, it ain't that.
If they were all the same or close to, stat wise, that would be utterly ridiculous as a skill feat but, well, it ain't that.
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Each individual Black Sperm is when they split to the full 53 trillion.
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Black sperm is a weird example because he's kinda inconsistent, as in his dura makes almost every attack capable of killing them, but his attacks can harm Low 7-B characters like Iaian atomic Samurai when they make the huge arms and stuff. (wich is more than a single copy, but also unknown.)
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I guess Madara's feat on soloing the Shinobi Alliance isn't a good skill feat.
Also, that only applies to Genos. Atomic Samurai and Iaian use swords, Tatsumaki was weakened to the poing that she could only restrain them. Darkshine could only punch and swipe. Genos could only shoot blasts with at most 10 meter range.
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Yeah, this is 100% true
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False.
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Fighting hundreds of opponents who each have the potential to be able to harm you (blades), but being able to dodge and take them all out without taking a single hit is a really good skill feat.
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Dude, is a SubRelati with High 7-A AP against dozens of 9-A
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In this case they're fighting against people who scale to their speed and AP, but just not dura.
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I mean, if Madara was like a billion times stronger, yeah tbh, I wouldn't call it that good.
Yeah, but Atomic Samurai, Genos, Tats, etc weren't actually fighting billions at once were they? More like just chunks of a few billion, which is, in fact, not a billion, and they were still mauling them so...
In fact, how many did they even end up killing? Didn't like 99% of them end up becoming Plat Sperm?
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that "99%" was 53 trillion of the original 54.
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Idk lad, going back to the chapter, the heroes were absolutely mauling them, not really by skill but just kinda, attacking and blitzing, killing bunches at a time? Darkshine in particular was swatting whole hordes into a splatter and emerging from piles of them unharmed, not really because he was skilled but just because he's buffed.
Bang and Atomic were just speedblitzing the **** out of them to a hilarious degree so of course they weren't touched.
Tats was using TK to stop any that came close, etc.
Yeah there was a large number of them, but when you kill them before they can even come close to land an attack, you ain't really outskilling.
Honestly, I'd only really say Bang's display could technically qualify as skill (Obviously the sword dudes were showing skill, but that skill was more in swordplay and the attacks themselves instead of fighting and outskilling multiple enemies), but he also was blitzing them pretty hard, killing dozens at a time before they could even finishing attacking, which is def speed issue.
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