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Not really sure what category he'd fall in here, plus as per Omega he's unsure if he can still beat Kanoh. But I suppose I can nominate Kengan characters (Ohma, Gensai and Kanoh.)Surprised you haven't nominated Beard God yet lol
Anos writing is pretty good, but he's no Yogiri tbh.But shit like "I beat omnipresent ******* while being inside said omnipresent dude", "I can make blackhole with my fart", "I think Anos is well written, and the series is god tier" are obviously not skill feats.
Anus is really goodAnos writing is pretty good, but he's no Yogiri tbh.
Hmm, fair i guess. It's just a very weird stance to take.I've laid out what's I consider to be skill pretty clearly in the OP, and even then, I leave it up to interpretation and keep it somewhat vague as to let people decide what is and isn't skill. I've laid out no real ironclad rules.
So like, if people think that something isn't skill, they are free to vote as such(even though that's not at all the only reasoning for Kojiro's win and you literally ignored part of my post like you always do), I have no ironclad skill rules, people are allowed to discuss and judge on their own merits.
You find it a weird stance, I find it to be as fair as possible. I don't own the concept of skill. It's fair to allow other people's interpretations to influence something that in the end is quite subjective to many.Hmm, fair i guess. It's just a very weird stance to take.
Also i didn't say that was all the reasoning for Kojiro's votes, im just saying the very first vote's reason was that, and a lot of the latter votes were just FRA, but since that was the only reason above, it means they agree with the "ikki's skill isn't skill therefore i nominate Kojiro" (which also claimed that what ikki was using was extrasensory perception which is straight up wrong). It's just how FRA's work.
I mean I've talked about Kojiro's experience and his dodging ability, as those are both part of his analytical ability. His skill encompasses his analytical ability, it's how he fights, its how he trains, it's how he does everything he does.To be fair all we've done so far as primarily compare Ikki’s Analytical Prediction to Sasaki's so far for the most part, and in that category I definitely feel like Sasaki takes the edge.
We really haven't gotten into swordsmanship, experience, dodging and accuracy. I think a good compromise would be to hold separate threads for people who want to take the place of other characters where the categories are addressed fully, I suppose that way we can come to a conclusion easier without flooding the thread itself.
There was no other reason though. A reason would require a vote, before the first vote, it is all debate.Also it doesn't mean that at all. Just because one person voted Kojiro for that reason doesn't mean the others did. It's all the more likely they voted him for me and Gin's reasons.
I would be down for that, a thread is already up on it.To be fair all we've done so far as primarily compare Ikki’s Analytical Prediction to Sasaki's so far for the most part, and in that category I definitely feel like Sasaki takes the edge.
We really haven't gotten into swordsmanship, experience, dodging and accuracy. I think a good compromise would be to hold separate threads for people who want to take the place of other characters where the categories are addressed fully, I suppose that way we can come to a conclusion easier without flooding the thread itself.
AP is just 1 category of what you said there are many, so im not sure how that one goes. Even in just AP the winner is very unclear, so just by virtue of your 1-5 point system, ikki takes it, simply because he would be a 5 in a lot of categories that Kojiro is either not impressive at or outright lacks.I mean I've talked about Kojiro's experience and his dodging ability, as those are both part of his analytical ability. His skill encompasses his analytical ability, it's how he fights, its how he trains, it's how he does everything he does.
Points made in debate are reasons to vote, dude.There was no other reason though. A reason would require a vote, before the first vote, it is all debate.
Any specific spot you're aiming for?Gonna nominate two firearm users from Hidan no Aria that might make the gun list. Although not sure which spot, if any.
First Kinji Tohyama.
He has various feats, like drawing his gun so fast its invisible or catching bullets. But his best skill feat might be the exponential bullet storm.
It is something performed in a fight with Holmes.
Basically, Holmes would shoot bullets at Kinji. Kinji would then shoot bullets of his own at the bullets Holmes shot, so that Holmes bullets ricochet back at him.
Kinji would then for each bullet he bounced back, add another bullet of his own so that the number of bullets flying towards Holmes doubled.
Holmes would do the same.
So, first Holmes shoots one bullet and Kinji makes it so that 2 bullets fly back towards him.
Then Holmes would bounce those bullets back and double the number of bullets again, so now 4 bullets were flying at Kinji.
So Kinji would now hit 4 bullets mid-air and again double the number at Holmes, so that Holmes now has to bounce back 8.
And so on.
At their peak, they each shot down 128 bullets or more before they reached them, making each bullet precisely ricochet back at their opponent.
Makes you wonder how much ammunition those guys carry...
Second is Reki.
In a range of 2051 meters she will never miss a shot.
She can hit a nerve center of a military-trained wolf while driving with a motorcycle around a corner.
She can also leave indentical exactly 3cm long, 3mm deep, 3cm high wounds on the legs of hunting dogs while fighting them as a sign.
She once disabled a bomb under a driving bus, by shooting a screw of the bomb from a helicopter flying beside the bridge the bus was on, through the railing of the bridge.
Reki can bounce her bullets around corners. She once hit a button on Kinji's uniform while just seeing his reflection on a metal plate of her wolf, which was reflected on the pole of a street sign. She then bounced her bullet off the pole and then again off the metal plate to shoot said button.
Reki can penetrate armored cars by shooting the exact same spot against and again, hammering the bullet slowly through the armor.
She can also get out of cover, aim at an opponent hidden over 2000m away in a forest, and get back into cover in a timeframe less than what it would need for the opponent's bullet to cover the distance between them. Quite impressive for someone with human speed.
She also has explosive bullets and can propel herself over large distances by basically performing a rocket jump.
Lastly, Reki is actually trained in being a realistic sniper, which is rare in fiction. Staying for hours in cover, while it gets colder and colder, without moving an inch always staying ready for that one opportunity to shoot? Yep, she does stuff like that.
Points made in debate are reasons to vote, dude.
And I've repeated this again, but, Kojiro is different in the way that his Analytical Prediction encompasses the whole of his skill. He uses Thousand Image Defense for every fight and it's how he trains and grows mid fight. His dodging comes from it, his insane experience comes from it, his precision comes from it, etc. In the literal sense, his analytical prediction is practically all of his skill, it covers all of the required points.
Kojiro's Thousand Image defense is both Information Analysis and skill copying(though the skill copying aspect is inferior to Ikki's I will admit).AP by default gives a lot of things to someone, like good dodging. However what it doesn't give people is information analysis, skill copying and a bunch of other things which are VERY noteworthy skill components. So I will ask you again, is the debate which one is better in all categories or who would win in a fight?
Hmmm... 3rd for Reki, 4th for Kinji maybe?Any specific spot you're aiming for?
SP = Spiritual Energy, MP = Magical Energy, Life Force = Physical Energy.Now that just doesn't make sense. Can you elaborate as to how life force = physicals?
I honestly don't know how to judge this. I'd like some feedback from others tbh lol.SP = Spiritual Energy, MP = Magical Energy, Life Force = Physical Energy.
It doesn't even pop up on status screens like SP and MP, it's taught through physical and mental training (Unlike Magic and especially skills), and it's something that anyone can learn theoretically given enough time and dedication.
That's why I'd say even if there are some life-force techniques that can't be considered skill, I think the sensing of life force is as fair as any other enhanced sense.
I completely forgot about this, but Life Force energy is actually described as skill energy at one point kek. That definitely makes it physical stuffs in my mind.
Link to that.
Up to interpretation? So who would win in a fight is a way one could get the spot?And again, the debate is subjective and up to interpretation. I'm not making any ironclad rules on that,
Now we're talking. @Bobsican Imma challenge you for first place with Rex Salazar!Sora will replace Dante, it seems. I'll change it when I get home.
Composite boxer steams the entire list tbh.
Who the **** would even think that this is a skill feat LOL"I think Anos is well written, and the series is god tier"
accept Ikki loses.
I'll be fair and say yeah I was sorta not clear on answering this.Ngl you're awfully confusing at answering shit.
I asked you "is the judgement based on who would win or who is better in more categories"
You say "up to interpretation on what ppl decide is skill"
That doesn't answer my question brother.
Tryna understand the rules here.