Wall Level Scream

[Ar1216789]

Hello.

So, in Scream VI, Gale was fighting Quinn in her apartment, and slammed Quinn hard enough to fragment a table into countless pieces, which would require Wall levels of energy. This feat is beyond human capabilities anyway.

 

[Ar1216789]

Someone calc this shit

 

[Ar1216789]

bump

 

[ByArrow]

In the video, the broken table appears to be made of glass, not wood. So it would be street level, not wall level.

 

[Ar1216789]

In the video, the broken table appears to be made of glass, not wood. So it would be street level, not wall level.

The legs were made of wood (or metal?) and her kick fragmented it to several pieces. Along with the glass table, also:

Shattering a glass table

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[TheShape03]

Along with the glass table, also:

Shattering a glass table

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That calculation is literally not accepted for the reasons mentioned in the comments.

 

[Ar1216789]

That calculation is literally not accepted for the reasons mentioned in the comments.

Yeah, but we can still get it around that level, also this table has wooden or metal legs. If it's metal, hands down Wall level. I'm gonna rewatch the scene.

 

[Ar1216789]

Bump. Yeah, it's Wood. I still believe it's Wall.

 

[Ar1216789]

bump

 

[rpmblack]

I think 70 cm or 30 inches is more reasonable for a table calc also not it aint entirely wood so not wall

 

[ByArrow]

Someone calc this shit

I calculated the Feat, and it came out Wall Level, which I didn't expect.

Scream Calc: Scream breaks the table.

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[Ar1216789]

I calculated the Feat, and it came out Wall Level, which I didn't expect.

Scream Calc: Scream breaks the table.

vsbattles.fandom.com

Thanks. I'll get calc staff to evaluate.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

So I'm gonna post here since you people have a thread for it.

This being more of an art piece than a functional piece of furniture, the legs are really ******* weird. The calc is definitely noticeably lower than it is right now (I don't know if it'll exit Wall or not), but look.

The bars of the leg widen and thin at parts, making any given thickness inconsistent. I still don't like using a cylinder (they aren't circular), but this makes things annoying, if nothing else.

 

[Ar1216789]

So I'm gonna post here since you people have a thread for it.

This being more of an art piece than a functional piece of furniture, the legs are really ******* weird. The calc is definitely noticeably lower than it is right now (I don't know if it'll exit Wall or not), but look.

The bars of the leg widen and thin at parts, making any given thickness inconsistent. I still don't like using a cylinder (they aren't circular), but this makes things annoying, if nothing else.

Hm, I see. I believe it should still be Wall level, I'll see what ByArrow thinks.

 

[ByArrow]

So I'm gonna post here since you people have a thread for it.

This being more of an art piece than a functional piece of furniture, the legs are really ******* weird. The calc is definitely noticeably lower than it is right now (I don't know if it'll exit Wall or not), but look.

The bars of the leg widen and thin at parts, making any given thickness inconsistent. I still don't like using a cylinder (they aren't circular), but this makes things annoying, if nothing else.

I did the calculation again using both the rectangular prism and the elliptical cylinder as you suggested. Does it work now?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Those suggestions were prior to my further inspection of the table above; they'd be more in-line with the table's actual structure, but I think any default shape will fail to be ideal. I'll go check out the calc again, if it's close enough to ballpark it then it is what it is.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

I hesitate to agree, even with the calc... In every movie there are a ton of anti-feats where closing a door more or less stops Ghostface in their tracks, Charlie and Ethan had to use repeated strikes to break even a small portion of a door. This is the only 9-B feat in the franchise from what I can remember, meaning the cast is harmed by a ton of 9-c and lower stuff (the highest calc is 3000 something joules). Overall 9-B feels very inconsistent and not supported by the narrative

But it's hard to argue with the numbers, sooo :v

 

[Mr. Bambu]

If it's an outlier, or if antifeats reign over this feat (only ever saw the first movie), then it's plausible to say either "At least 9-C, at most 9-B", or to withhold it, given how low into 9-B it is.

 

[Ar1216789]

I hesitate to agree, even with the calc... In every movie there are a ton of anti-feats where closing a door more or less stops Ghostface in their tracks, Charlie and Ethan had to use repeated strikes to break even a small portion of a door. This is the only 9-B feat in the franchise from what I can remember, meaning the cast is harmed by a ton of 9-c and lower stuff (the highest calc is 3000 something joules). Overall 9-B feels very inconsistent and not supported by the narrative

But it's hard to argue with the numbers, sooo :v

Roman has a good amount of 9-B feats which is overlooked by the wiki honestly. Specifically this, he unintentionally split a wooden table by flopping on it, as well as fragmenting a wooden chair. It seems consistent ever since Scream 3 with the "Superhuman" Roman, as stated by Randy in the short film that the 3rd movie killer is Superhuman, and this analogy is supported by his feats. Some more feats: Charlie feat.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

split a wooden table

That should still be 9-C, this happens all the time irl and the table destruction calc only applies to the whole table breaking, not a thin section in the middle

Some more feats: Charlie feat.

He breaks about 1/8th of a door with 10-ish strikes, a rough calc tells me that's only about 5,712.666635625 joules, Street level

Definitely a supporting feat, but not quite Wall level

The chair feat is noteworthy, though I seem to remember that being ruled out in a prior discussion

I'd also like to point out that Sidney says that Randy was wrong and Roman wasn't superhuman

Personally I think a "At least 9-C, possibly 9-B" works best

 

[rpmblack]

Would throwing someone through a door by throwing a body be wall?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Plywood, wood, screen, steel, or what

 

[Ar1216789]

That should still be 9-C, this happens all the time irl and the table destruction calc only applies to the whole table breaking, not a thin section in the middle

He did it unintentionally, I believe he should be able to destroy it entirely, given his feats and how Gale performed a similar feat, and he's far superior to her. He already destroyed a majority of the base of the table, and he's been shown to fragment wood easily.

He breaks about 1/8th of a door with 10-ish strikes, a rough calc tells me that's only about 5,712.666635625 joules, Street level

Definitely a supporting feat, but not quite Wall level

The chair feat is noteworthy, though I seem to remember that being ruled out in a prior discussion

Yeah, I was talking about the Charlie feat as a supporting feat. The chair feat can't be 9-C imo, it should reach the lowest of Wall Level energy honestly.

I'd also like to point out that Sidney says that Randy was wrong and Roman wasn't superhuman

Personally I think a "At least 9-C, possibly 9-B" works best

I agree with 9-C possibly 9-B. Sidney was disproven directly after when Roman got up and took 8 shots. The whole "Superhuman" stuff is backed by his feats so we can confirm it as true.

 

[Ar1216789]

I think 9-C - Possibly 9-B works out.

So, can this be applied to the profiles?

 

[HorrorHistory]

There are still tons of anti feats in the verse that don't support straight up 9-B, but taking the calc above into consideration, "At least 9-C, possibly at most 9-B" fits more. And would this scale to the entire verse?

 

[Ar1216789]

And would this scale to the entire verse?

Whoever scales to Gale. So yeah.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Off the top of my head;

Billy, Quinn, Charlie, Nancy(?), Amber, Roman, Sidney, and Tara all directly harm and/or takes attacks from Gale

And from them scales Sidney, Stu, Sam, Richie, Dewey, Mickey, Jill, etc

 

[HorrorHistory]

So we just need Bambu's approval I suppose.

 

[Ar1216789]

So we just need Bambu's approval I suppose.

Bambu accepted it as 17 Kilojoules, which is Wall Level. This can be used I suppose. Higher than 17 kilojoules given the approved formula of glass.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

In the future that value may be bumped slightly, glass has been unacceptable for use for a long time on this wiki due to returning relatively absurd values (street level for practically any significantly sized glass object being broken, even stuff normal humans routinely do destroy). The blog linked in that calc isn't formally approved, since that sort of thing would require acceptance beyond the simple math being accepted- in the future, if that becomes accepted, then the result will be marginally higher (17 kJ will become 25 kJ).

 

[Ar1216789]

This can be applied. Anyone who wishes to apply it go ahead, if no one wishes to apply it i'll do it soon enough.

 

[Flashlight237]

This can be applied. Anyone who wishes to apply it go ahead, if no one wishes to apply it i'll do it soon enough.

Wait, do we need to CRT that? I mean this is an entire tier change we're talking about.

 

[Ar1216789]

Wait, do we need to CRT that? I mean this is an entire tier change we're talking about.

Is a CRT needed? The calculation is already approved.

 

[Flashlight237]

Is a CRT needed? The calculation is already approved.

Yeah, that's how the wiki works.

 

[Ar1216789]

Yeah, that's how the wiki works.

Hm, okay. I'll create one.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I can move this to Content Revision if that is preferred. I approve of "At least 9-C, at most 9-B", as well- both as a CGM and a member of the evaluating staff.

 

[Flashlight237]

I can move this to Content Revision if that is preferred. I approve of "At least 9-C, at most 9-B", as well- both as a CGM and a member of the evaluating staff.

That would save a lot of time. Thank you.

 

[Ar1216789]

I can move this to Content Revision if that is preferred. I approve of "At least 9-C, at most 9-B", as well- both as a CGM and a member of the evaluating staff.

Already a CRT present. I'll add you as an agree.