Vs battles wiki pet peeves

[Shmooply]

i think hes joking

 

[Deidalius]

i think hes joking

I see, Well I'm dumb and jokes fly over my head all the time so my bad then.

 

[Deceived3596]

I see, Well I'm dumb and jokes fly over my head all the time so my bad then.

 

[SunDaGamer]

When someone dismisses a statement as "flowery language" despite being shown information and context to build a case that it isn't

 

[CrackerVolley]

Finding a matchup that would be really sick, only to realize it's really lopsided mostly due to one single ability.

 

[ForkMorkPork]

Not being able to find equal characters in power to fight SMT damnit

 

[Peppersalt43]

Not being able to find equal characters in power to fight SMT damnit

I think this applies to most Tier 1 characters

 

[StorytellingDemonKing]

The inconsistent bullet point format:

 

[CrackerVolley]

I know this is probably more because Jupiter is just barely too small to become a star, but the fact that its GBE is probably High 5-A annoys the hell of me.

 

[Giannysmag]

I know this is probably more because Jupiter is just barely too small to become a star, but the fact that its GBE is probably High 5-A annoys the hell of me.

It's 5-A

 

[CrackerVolley]

Oh whoops. I was trying to figure the GBE for all the planets specifically because I couldn't find a calc like that. I must have goofed at some point.

 

[SunDaGamer]

I know this is probably more because Jupiter is just barely too small to become a star, but the fact that its GBE is probably High 5-A annoys the hell of me.

Jupiter needs x13 more mass to be a brown dwarf and x83-85 to become a low mass star, for reference: Jupiter is x2.5 heavier than all the other planets of the solar system combined so it would only get x1.4 more mass from eating the solar system.

 

[StorytellingDemonKing]

Whatever is going on with quote option. Either it quotes sentences completely unintended or leaves a massive gap between them that can't be corrected.

 

[Metalballrun]

I need to reconfigure some stuff in this site. I barely visit, but when I do, I notice that the lag is perpetual.

 

[Passersby]

my newest pet peev is the AP=/= DC

saying AP =/= DC is pure circular reasoning if you think about it for a single second

you'd have 7C characters punching a wall with their full strenght and somehow not breaking it yet that's not an anti feat because AP=/= DC

with that argument, we're going from "this character did this therefore he is 7C" to "this is ignored because obviously he is 7C, and then therefore because it's ignored here, every time any anti feat is presented it would be ignored because he is 7C."


this is basically reaching a conclusion first then workiing backwards from there to justify the reasoning behind it...which really isn't how it should work


....yeah, posting this would be a mistake, but i am also a mistake so screw it, i don't really care

 

[Giannysmag]

my newest pet peev is the AP=/= DC

saying AP =/= DC is pure circular reasoning if you think about it for a single second

you'd have 7C characters punching a wall with their full strenght and somehow not breaking it yet that's not an anti feat because AP=/= DC

with that argument, we're going from "this character did this therefore he is 7C" to "this is ignored because obviously he is 7C, and then therefore because it's ignored here, every time any anti feat is presented it would be ignored because he is 7C."


this is basically reaching a conclusion first then workiing backwards from there to justify the reasoning behind it...which really isn't how it should work


....yeah, posting this would be a mistake, but i am also a mistake so screw it, i don't really care

It definately isn't perfect but for a lot of series it's the best we can do

 

[Passersby]

It definately isn't perfect but for a lot of series it's the best we can do

your new pfp breaks my heart brother


but if a series has consistent feats at a certain tier and has some random other feats that are either way higher or lower, those are either anti feats or outliers, we just take the most consistent scaling because no series is perfect


i'm still against using flawed arguments tho...meh, could be just me i guess

 

[Metalballrun]

you'd have 7C characters punching a wall with their full strenght and somehow not breaking it yet that's not an anti feat because AP=/= DC

with that argument, we're going from "this character did this therefore he is 7C" to "this is ignored because obviously he is 7C, and then therefore because it's ignored here, every time any anti feat is presented it would be ignored because he is 7C."

You're gonna have to give a specific example, because this doesn't really add up if you wanna argue for a circular reasoning fallacy.

This is more like an argument related on outliers and deciding which end is more consistent than the other. Which can be highly contextual and debatable.

 

[Passersby]

You're gonna have to give a specific example, because this doesn't really add up if you wanna argue for a circular reasoning fallacy.

This is more like an argument related on outliers and deciding which end is more consistent than the other. Which can be highly contextual and debatable.

of course, i'm all for taking the more consistent end of the scaling, that's the most effective way to power scale and it can be highly contextual and debatale as you said

what i am against is treating the anti feats and outliers as if they don't exist/trying to make sens of them using that argument

 

[Giannysmag]

your new pfp breaks my heart brother

Don't worry when Goatjo has his second enlightenment and returns (definately not copium) i'm gonna change my pfp to that

but if a series has consistent feats at a certain tier and has some random other feats that are either way higher or lower, those are either anti feats or outliers, we just take the most consistent scaling because no series is perfect

That's fair, but i feel like here is one of the place where this logic gets applied the most (for better or worst). Also it helps that alot of series have in-universe explenations for this (superheros always holding back, Ki control in Dragonball)

 

[Passersby]

Don't worry when Goatjo has his second enlightenment and returns (definately not copium) i'm gonna change my pfp to that

gojo's about to become the second buddha, and i'm all for it

That's fair, but i feel like here is one of the place where this logic gets applied the most (for better or worst). Also it helps that alot of series have in-universe explenations for this (superheros always holding back, Ki control in Dragonball)

another pet peev is dargon ball a hot pile of inconsistent mess

that verse is legit trash at keeping a consistent power level

 

[SeijiSetto]

gojo's about to become the second buddha, and i'm all for it



another pet peev is dargon ball a hot pile of inconsistent mess

that verse is legit trash at keeping a consistent power level

if SSJ1 is a 50x amp to AP and speed, shouldn't anyone who is even remotely relative to base Goku get absolutely washed by SSJ1?

vice versa for anyone who can match his higher forms, base Goku should get blitzed and one-tapped

just a thought i had the other day

 

[Giannysmag]

gojo's about to become the second buddha, and i'm all for it

Never lose faith in HIM

another pet peev is dargon ball a hot pile of inconsistent mess

that verse is legit trash at keeping a consistent power level

Ive seen that take a lot but most people never explain why

 

[Passersby]

if SSJ1 is a 50x amp to AP and speed, shouldn't anyone who is even remotely relative to base Goku get absolutely washed by SSJ1?
vice versa for anyone who can match his higher forms, base Goku should get blitzed and one-tapped

just a thought i had the other day

one tapped speed blitzed and absolutely demolished, yes

but of course that wouldn't be cool enough, so that never happens and never will happen

 

[Passersby]

Ive seen that take a lot but most people never explain why

...well, there is a lot, like goku getting harmed by ice or dyspo hearing hit's muscles move to react to him despite both being FTL or generally just inconsistent power outputs, way too lazy to look for all of them, but it just is

 

[GarrixianXD]

that verse is legit trash at keeping a consistent power level

I’d eat my phone if there’s a single goddamn verse out there that can keep a consistent power level.

 

[Passersby]

I’d eat my phone if there’s a single goddamn verse out there that can keep a consistent power level.

supremacy games

now eat it...

well, that's a novel, if you go past the questionable first chapter then it's world building fights and power system will keep you hooked

thank me later

 

[GarrixianXD]

supremacy games

now eat it...

well, that's a novel, if you go past the questionable first chapter then it's world building fights and power system will keep you hooked

thank me later

It also mentioned a planet blasting feat and this planet buster apparently got hurt by metal. Damn… That is real consistency right there; that metal must be made out of Netherite

 

[Passersby]

It also mentioned a planet blasting feat and this planet buster apparently got hurt by metal. Damn… That is real consistency right there; that metal must be made out of Netherite

there is something called metal manip there, and there is a smith who can make divine weapons, that hammer used is made by said smith


it ain't no random metal bruh

edit: just realized that may sound soemewhat passive aggressive giving the generic name but there is legit an ability called metal manipulation there where you can manipulate every metal existing in the universe

 

[GarrixianXD]

Planetary metal????????? Ain’t realistic, therefore ain’t consistent

 

[Giannysmag]

Planetary metal????????? Ain’t realistic, therefore ain’t consistent

This whole conversation reminded me of this

 

[Passersby]

Planetary metal????????? Ain’t realistic, therefore ain’t consistent

supernatural metal made by mixing other supernatural materials a world tree branch some dragon scales then enhanced by supernatural runes and supernatural metal ennergy and other bs like that

if that's not enough to warrant the fact that it's consistent i don't really know what is

now eat that phone

 

[Passersby]

This whole conversation reminded me of this

mikey victim

 

[GarrixianXD]

supernatural metal made by mixing other supernatural materials a world tree branch some dragon scales then enhanced by supernatural runes and supernatural metal ennergy and other bs like that

if that's not enough to warrant the fact that it's consistent i don't really know what is

now eat that phone

Not scientific

 

[Passersby]

Not scientific

tsk, coward

 

[DivineAura44]

Not scientific

Doesn't make it inconsistent scaling wise.

 

[Passersby]

Doesn't make it inconsistent scaling wise.

i mean, if you want go technically it's scientific in that verse since it's part of it's natural observable laws 2


but i just gave up since eating a phone is painful, speaking from experience

 

[DivineAura44]

eating a phone is painful, speaking from experience

Word? I never would have guessed.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

eating a phone is painful, speaking from experience

then you're doing it wrong.

 

[Giannysmag]

eating a phone is painful, speaking from experience

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