Voids between timelines

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I'll be brief, In the work I'm watching, there was a void separating the timelines from each other, to go there is a line you will have to cross this kind of void between the timelines



Practically the timelines in this work work from the following information, an event in the past does not affect another timeline



There is also mention of space and time


In this case, would this void have a certain size just with that mentioned or would it be a 5D structure separating the timelines?

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

I think if multiple universes exist within a single dimension then it's higher by default.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I think if multiple A dimensions exist within a single B dimension then it's higher by default.

I think I'll go to the wall @Ultima_Reality question

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

I'll be brief, In the work I'm watching, there was a void separating the timelines from each other, to go there is a line you will have to cross this kind of void between the timelines

Practically the timelines in this work work from the following information, an event in the past does not affect another timeline

In this case, would this void have a certain size just with that mentioned or would it be a 5D structure separating the timelines?

You mean this thing?

I'll be brief, In the work I'm watching, there was a void separating the timelines from each other, to go there is a line you will have to cross this kind of void between the timelines

Yeah, it's just an unquantifiable/insignificant 5-D void.

Practically the timelines in this work work from the following information, an event in the past does not affect another timeline

This factor isn't unique, most parallel space-times are assumed to work like that.

In this case, would this void have a certain size just with that mentioned or would it be a 5D structure separating the timelines?

Just an insignificant 5-D space that doesn't meet the standards for Low 1-C.

Warning: I only read the OP.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/low-1-c-neutral-space-dbs.156554/post-5932764
So, glancing over this: It doesn't really seem to be anything particularly notable, in the sense that we already assume 4-D spacetimes that exist in parallel are spaced apart across 5-dimensional space. The issue, largely, is whether this 5-dimensional space has anything noteworthy about it to be tiered; it could be a complete void, for instance, and as such have really nothing in it to blow up in the first place.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/low-1-c-neutral-space-dbs.156554/post-5932764
More than that, it could just not meet our criteria of what a "significantly large" dimensional structure is, and as such be left untiered. Just like we don't instantly grant characters Low 2-C ratings for destroying small spacetimes (Or sections of spacetime). If the space was infinitely large, there'd be something to work with, but if we don't know its size, then, yeah.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/low-1-c-neutral-space-dbs.156554/post-5932764
And, to my knowledge, I believe we already use the 5-D space reasoning as part of the regular justification for tiers like 2-C and 2-A. It's why the gap between them is treated as "unquantifiable," because, ideally, feats that warrant them involve affecting both the universes and the space between them.

 

[Fixxed]

Space between timelines??

5D insignificant space. If it infinity then it can be significant and be tiered (low 1C)

 

[Vietthai96]

Space between timelines??

5D insignificant space. If it infinity then it can be significant and be tiered (low 1C)

You don't need to be infinity to be significant

 

[KLOL506]

AFAIK the 5D space has to be universal size throughout the 5th dimensional axis or infinitely large to be considered a Low 1-C realm, but even that isn't gonna be enough to net you a tier if nobody scales to it.

 

[Fixxed]

You don't need to be infinity to be significant

It is just the most straightforward way to become significant space. The other way is will fall to vagueness, unless you can have the timelines as measuring sticks

 

[KLOL506]

It is just the most straightforward way to become significant space. The other way is will fall to vagueness, unless you can have the timelines as measuring sticks

That's just step one. You then need to find if characters definitively scale to this by being able to significantly affect or destroy it.

 

[Fixxed]

That's just step one. You then need to find if characters definitively scale to this by being able to significantly affect or destroy it.

Yeah i mean for the structure, not for the character

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

You mean this thing?

Yeah, it's just an unquantifiable/insignificant 5-D void.

This factor isn't unique, most parallel space-times are assumed to work like that.

Just an insignificant 5-D space that doesn't meet the standards for Low 1-C.

Space between timelines??

5D insignificant space. If it infinity then it can be significant and be tiered (low 1C)

Yes, basically this void about DB timelines

 

[Vietthai96]

That's just step one. You then need to find if characters definitively scale to this by being able to significantly affect or destroy it.

I mean, the structure need to be that tier first before anything else lol, unless some special case where we can jump tier via "infinitely stronger"

 

[KLOL506]

I mean, the structure need to be that tier first before anything else lol, unless some special case where we can jump tier via "infinitely stronger"

"Infinitely stronger" doesn't count anyway because it's too vague and not referring to any cosmology at hand LMAO

 

[SuperSonicTL]

That's just step one. You then need to find if characters definitively scale to this by being able to significantly affect or destroy it.

Dragon Ball Heroes/XenoVerse characters could

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

can someone answer this?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/what-tier-is-this-cosmology.159371/

When I entered there was nothing '-'

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

you sure,
if you mean by nothing: there is no comment is because no one comment on it yet.

When I say I don't see anything

 

[Lilixa]

I'll be brief, In the work I'm watching, there was a void separating the timelines from each other, to go there is a line you will have to cross this kind of void between the timelines



Practically the timelines in this work work from the following information, an event in the past does not affect another timeline



There is also mention of space and time


In this case, would this void have a certain size just with that mentioned or would it be a 5D structure separating the timelines?

The void would be 5-D (X,Y,Z,E,F) but according to past discussion it's not enough for low 1-C. Need confirmation that 5th axis is infinite or very large in size. Like for example the distance between universe A to B is infinite or Yggdrasil able to stretch infinitely in RBR without intersecting stuff like that.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The void would be 5-D (X,Y,Z,E,F) but according to past discussion it's not enough for low 1-C. Need confirmation that 5th axis is infinite or very large in size. Like for example the distance between universe A to B is infinite or Yggdrasil able to stretch infinitely in RBR without intersecting stuff like that.

My God, it's impossible for any verse to currently be updated to tier 1, it's very difficult to have any mention of this in each verse and very detailed things ;-;

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

My God, it's impossible for any verse to currently be updated to tier 1, it's very difficult to have any mention of this in each verse and very detailed things ;-;

it can be expressed through other ways too such as a (simplifying this of course) a "Higher plane" sees these universes as tiny specks (iE dust, distant stars, atoms, etc.)

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

it can be expressed through other ways too such as a (simplifying this of course) a "Higher plane" sees these universes as tiny specks (iE dust, distant stars, atoms, etc.)

Sister, this is practically impossible and I highly doubt it, it really isn't for everyone tier 1, now I understand why people don't like level 1

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

it can be expressed through other ways too such as a (simplifying this of course) a "Higher plane" sees these universes as tiny specks (iE dust, distant stars, atoms, etc.)

Well, in front of Zen'ō's palace we see the Universe in the shape of a marble, something like that and it is separate from the entire DB multiverse

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

sorry, Idk why It doesn't work.
anyway thanks.

If you want you can find it in: Tier and Tiering system tags

Hehehe, okay.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

it can be expressed through other ways too such as a (simplifying this of course) a "Higher plane" sees these universes as tiny specks (iE dust, distant stars, atoms, etc.)

Visuals like that will no longer work as supporting evidence for Low 1-C.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Visuals like that will no longer work as supporting evidence for Low 1-C.

huh didn't know that..

Wouldn't that debunk and make Reality Fiction difference obsolete then? That is what i thought it was basically. Visual depiction such as that i believed fell under the umbrella of RFD (reality fiction difference)

 

[Huesito88]

huh didn't know that..

Wouldn't that debunk and make Reality Fiction difference obsolete then? That is what i thought it was basically. Visual depiction such as that i believed fell under the umbrella of RFD (reality fiction difference)

Good thinking maybe you should bring that up somewhere else

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Good thinking maybe you should bring that up somewhere else

eh someone else can. i don't really have time atm

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

eh someone else can. i don't really have time atm

Complicated

 

[DontTalkDT]

huh didn't know that..

Wouldn't that debunk and make Reality Fiction difference obsolete then? That is what i thought it was basically. Visual depiction such as that i believed fell under the umbrella of RFD (reality fiction difference)

RFD was always about seeing a plane of reality as fiction. I don't think giant ball universes floating in a void would indicate that.
If your universe is a book or an apple on a tree or otherwise something that metaphorically represents in a higher world, one can talk if it contextually is maybe RFD. Something very small like atoms could be debatable as well. Depends on if it's more a size thing or a qualitative point.
Of course, the simplest way to have R>F is if it's actually stated to be fictional or just being a story.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

RFD was always about seeing a plane of reality as fiction. I don't think giant ball universes floating in a void would indicate that.
If your universe is a book or an apple on a tree or otherwise something that metaphorically represents in a higher world, one can talk if it contextually is maybe RFD. Something very small like atoms could be debatable as well. Depends on if it's more a size thing or a qualitative point.
Of course, the simplest way to have R>F is if it's actually stated to be fictional or just being a story.

Ah thank you for the clarification therr