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@Gilas

if It can affect her incorporeal mind it's mind hax, so it's resisted

if isn't mind hax it can't affect her incorporeal mind
 
Gilad Hyperstar said:
Because Bill doesn't have a default move, the general consensus is that he starts with what he uses the most, otherwise matches with Bill would be impossible due to that reason. Bill uses transmutation multiple time and is actually very likely to use it on any foe who isn't useful to Bill (he kept the Pines only because he needed them, and he was arrogant mostly against the Pines as well since he knew they're so much weaker than him and couldn't POSSIBLY defeat him (and we know how that turned out))
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That is not justification for giving him a personality he doesn't have.

He never gets in a fight and just snaps, ever, so you can't say he'll do that if not bloodlusted.

Looking at how he reacted to normal humans, completely disregarding them and letting them say what they want, is much more reasonable of an indexing for how he'd react.
 
Overlord775 said:
@Gilas
if It can affect her incorporeal mind it's mind hax, so it's resisted

if isn't mind hax it can't affect her incorporeal mind
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No, that's just Non-Physical Interaction, meaning his haxes can affect her mind
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
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So what you suggest as his starting move? You and anyone else who complains about Bill's starting move say that but doesn't say what his starting move should be

Also, Bill would probably act a lot closer to how he acted toward Time Baby against people he doesn't know rather than to Dipper and Mabel
 
First of all, I don't need to say what is right to say it's wrong. Secondly, I did give a more reasonable way to see how he actually starts.

And why would he act like with time baby? Assuming he acts to normal people as he acted against an enforcer of law over all of time and space who he needs to murder to gain control over time is just not good.

You assume he acts against people as he acts against normal people. He bellitles them, he boasts to them, he let's them talk to him, and only then does he even begin to use any of his abilities.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
You assume he acts against people as he acts against normal people. He bellitles them, he boasts to them, he let's them talk to him, and only then does he even begin to use any of his abilities.
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You forgot that in a majority of those cases, Bill either did it because he knew they were weak (such as against Dipper in weirdmaggedon), or he need something from them (such as that they would make a deal with him). When People he don't have anything to gain from try to attack him (like in a VS match), Bill is very likely to snap them (Snapping Mabel to sleep and BFRing her as soon as she gives him the rift, turning Dipper and Mabel's friends to tapstries as soon as they intended to fight him, turning Ford into gold the moment he didn't need him anymore, twice.)

Most other people also doesn't kill each other immediately either, or doesn't even start by using their abilities immediately normally whenever they meet other people. Does that mean that in a fight a non-fighter character would just talk or will be in a fight mode? Because if Bill is in a fight mode he'll act differently than when just talking
 
No. That isn't true for neither the citizen of gravity falls, nor against pacifista's parents.

When the shack attacked him he just threw minions at it and was surprised that it failed. Then he tried to punch it with the force of a nuke and was again surprised that it failed.

He never reacted ato any attempted attacks by snapping. He blasts or punches in pretty much all cases he is attacked. Saying he would likely snap with by default has no proof when he never began an actual fight with that.
 
Yeah considering the 3 "fights" he's been in (Mindscape fight, Shacktron, chasing Dipper and Mabel) his strategy was to grow huge and punch/shoot lasers.
 
Schnee One said:
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EE is a spiritual based ability that affects your body in soul.

Matter based directly affects the atoms physically and splits them apart
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what? ee is spiritual because it also destroys the soul but that is not even relevant idk why you constantly bringing up that part like i am dumb or something......ee is also matter based because it destroys the body just like thanos snap

an admin also agrees https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3949631#2
 
Buddy, I have no idea how you got from "resistance to EE" to "resistance to all forms of matter destruction".

1. EE and Deconstruction are completely unrelated powers. Resistance to one means nothing against the other.

2. What he meant by that was EE that only erases the body.
 
Because you're comparing something that physically breaks Matter down to spiritual Erasure, you can't. I'm showing you the difference because you keep saying one is better then the other when they are fundamentally different.

Of course this is once again moot, because Goku's resistance amounted to not getting him killed instantly, so his resistance isn't good enough to begin with regardless

An Admin agreeing doesn't make your point better, that is an Authority Fallacy

Come to my wall if you have more disagreements as you're derailing here.
 
EE doesn't actually have to be spiritual. If you're erasing matter from existence entirely that's still beyond what you'll be able to do with matter manip since you aren't supposed to be able to destroy matter or energy.
 
Wokistan said:
EE doesn't actually have to be spiritual. If you're erasing matter from existence entirely that's still beyond what you'll be able to do with matter manip since you aren't supposed to be able to destroy matter or energy.
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wait one last thing you are saying ee is beyond and superior to matter destruction because thanos only turns people into ash and ee destroys them completely.....so why will someone who survives the better version of destruction fall to a lesser version??
 
because it's not the same ability

having your atoms destroyed is a completly different process from being erased. it simply isn't the same thing
 
Naruto's AP is rendered null due to Luffy's rubber body and the gap between them really isn't that big and Luffy has durability. I see nothing wrong with letting that match stay on the profile. Also Naruto doesn't have the durability advantage either, Luffy has High 7-A durability.
 
Thats false, Naruto will be getting an upgrade to High 7-A which means he would have a 3x Advantage against Luffy and not only that he can make 4 clones that all share his AP and Durability. He is only resistant to Blunt Force so Naruto can still hurt him.
 
If he's getting bumped to High 7-A then you should have opened up with that instead of "With the recent OP downgrades." the way you originally worded it makes it seem like you were referring to the gap between 7-A and 7-A+.
 
Evem then Naruto still has a massive AP advantage since he scales above 810mt, while luffy scales above 337mt. Anyway the fight between them should be removed.
 
Homer's fight with Giorno should probably also be removed. Reason is Giorno also can't bypass Mid regen and his sense messing thing doesn't last long enough to incap him. Plus they also gave Homer prior knowledge on Giorno's ability. Completely one-sided

These profiles aren't even protected but whatever
 
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