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A Song of Ice and Fire profiles have no calculations for their Attack Potency feats.
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Verse Creation (Or Resurrection) Help Thread
- Thread starter Shmeatywerbenmanjenson
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Lacku
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Thanks man but there's still so much that I need to do with it
I gotta finish making profiles, figure out fast the lightcycles are, and calc a bunch of other stuff.
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Most of the characters are at this level because there is no feat where they lift 50-80 kg
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Some can most likely have Average Human/Above Average Human in LS (some are already Class 1/Class 5) , but others I don't think so
ShionAH
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That makes them unknown…
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or at least Below Average Human. No need to put "Unknown" when they can lift swords and shields and use them in battle,
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The characters are beyond athletic ability and are considered monsters. You say that they are weaker than the average person in strength is simply a joke. Literally there are characters who are described as being able to wear armor that no human would be able to wear and lift swords 2 meters long EDIT: with one ******* hand
At very least you should have put them as Unknown, not BELOW average human
No profile follows that shit logic.They are warriors, trained humans. My ass they are below average
ShionAH
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I mean unknown works better since they are probably not Below Average Human thats a shitty logic lol
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But I'm not talking about Gregor Clegane or characters like him, but about the other characters. They are trained to fight yes, but that does not mean that they can lift 80 kg on the first try if they are asked to do so. According to your logic any IRL athlete in any sport could do this
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No below average human being can lift 50 kilos in the bench press, or during other strength exercises. It's just the LS names that are bad.
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They are human
They don't show that they are weaker than normal humans
In fact they prove to be physically much further than a normal human
They are legendary, trained warriors
The default would be to put them as at least athletic level or, if you downplay, human level
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You focus too much on the name "Below Average Human" of the LS level.
No below average human can lift 30 or 40 kg.
Most average humans can't even lift 80kg without training.
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.... So?
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So there's nothing inconsistent/weird in giving a LS "Below Average Human" to most ASOIAF characters.
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For Gregor Clegane I admit it's not very consistent
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Theres a lot
You are basically saying that I am about several times stronger than 90% of the verse
You assuming a random value for them doesn't make things more consistent just because it's a small value
You are literally assuming that they are weaker than a normal human even though this is not shown to be true at any point
You are basically saying that I am about several times stronger than 90% of the verse
You assuming a random value for them doesn't make things more consistent just because it's a small value
You are literally assuming that they are weaker than a normal human even though this is not shown to be true at any point
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Bruh, think about this, a regular human weighs more than 40 kg, you're saying these characters wouldn't even be able to support their own weight and would break their arms trying to do a single pull up lmao.
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I guess another verse I really wanna revive is Ninja: The Most Dangerous Game
There's not even a verse page and it's one of the WORST graphic novels I've read but it's Tyler "Ninja" Blevins and he may or may not be Tier 2 or Tier 5 and I think the idea of Tier 2 / Tier 5 Ninja Fortnite is hilarious.
I have access to the sequel book to (which no one owns).
There's not even a verse page and it's one of the WORST graphic novels I've read but it's Tyler "Ninja" Blevins and he may or may not be Tier 2 or Tier 5 and I think the idea of Tier 2 / Tier 5 Ninja Fortnite is hilarious.
I have access to the sequel book to (which no one owns).
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You don't understand what I'm saying.
The name "Below Average Human" and "Average Human" of the LS is misleading.
If IRL athletes had profiles on VSBW, some would also have a LS "Below Average Human" or "Average Human". Because being athletic does not mean being able to lift 70 or 80 kg the first time without training in weight lifting.
No below average human being can lift 30 or 40 kg, and on VSBW the "Below Average Human" is to be able to carry 0 to 50 kg.
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It depends on what type of lifting force VSBW takes into account, but the case you are talking about is not even useful in combat. If you are 50 kg it does not mean that you can lift 50 kg in bench press during your first try
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I can lift more than 80Kg and I'm not even so athletic compared to these guys
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It uses force, so if someone weighs more than 50 KG its enough to be above average, since they can withstand the force gravity applies on them in relation to their mass, if these guys were Below Average they would also have to weigh less than 50 KG otherwise they would be tired just from the act of existing lol
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ShionAH
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@Ser_Hakim_Dayne I am sorry man but that logic is horrible
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The ASOIAF warriors probably weigh 80 to 90 kg (Or even more), but they can't lift 50
ShionAH
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with the armour probably way more
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Which doesn't change what I'm saying. During VS threads the LS of characters is constantly used in combat, and the case you cite is not useful in combat.
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At this point you are just being ignorant
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So prove to me that anyone can lift their own weight in weightlifting on their first try (without training in weight lifting)
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And I assume people get into weightlifting competitions in VS threads a lot?
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Tier 2 ninja does sound Goated, I might try reading that lmao
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Lifting Strength is used in VS Threads yes, all the time.
Being able to lift weights can help you determine your LS, like many other feats...
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Considering they are ripped and giants, they must weigh at least 80 kg, most armor weighs around 25 kg, so in total there are 105 kg on the body
In dueling, in a heavy exchange of attacks, you need to throw your body weight at your opponent
If they could not even lift 50 kg the warriors would instantly fall to the ground in a battle, something that not happens
Gonna create a CRT when I have time
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Lifting strength in this wiki is determined by how much force a character can produce and withstand, a regular human generates more force than 50 KG just by existing, see that in the Lifting Strength page it doesn't say "mass" but rather "force", and force more or less correlates to how much you can lift, even though it's not direct.
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We literally talk about "Lifting Strength", the amount of mass a character can lift.
"Lifting Strength measures the amount of mass they can lift, which is determined by the amount of force a character can produce"
VSBW is talking about what kind of LS?
The one where you use your whole body to be able to lift an object that is above your head? Or that of being able to lift weights with just the strength of your arms, like in the bench press? I'm confused lol
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So they're just talking about body weight?
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How much force you can generate, body weight is acceptable for that, because you can for example, run, swim, jump easily with that weight, which generates more force, these guys can probably do a lot of running, and swinging of swords an armor, which generates much more force, which probably scales, altough not exactly to how much they can lift/push etc. This lifting strength would prove useful in situations where an opponent tries to grab or choke them, for example.
